Subj : Re: Most memorable modern To : Jcurtis From : jimmylogan Date : Tue May 20 2025 20:38:47 -=> Jcurtis wrote to JIMMYLOGAN <=- > We have eyewitness accounts that corroborate the existence of Jesus > the Christ. He claimed to BE God and said He would die and rise again > after three days in the ground. He did this - again, eyewitness > accounts corroborate this. > If He managed to do this, then His claim of being God is legit. Jc> Not even Jesus could resurrect himself. The Father gave him life again. Jc> The Trinity doctrine is nonsense. Jc> John 1:18, 14:28, etc. Jc> Churches use the Bible, but add their own ideas to it. The church of Jc> Paul's time is hard to find today. I appreciate the reply, but I'd encourage you to look again at what Jesus said about Himself. No one takes my life from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. John 10:18 Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. John 14:9 Jesus didn't just say He was a servant of God. He claimed divine authority. And the eyewitness accounts confirm He rose just as He said He would. You mentioned the Trinity being nonsense, but that truth wasn't invented later. It is rooted in Jesus' own words, and it was affirmed by the early church long before councils and denominations: The Apostles Creed (2nd century) says I believe in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord who was crucified, died, and was buried. He descended to the dead. On the third day He rose again. Not a man resurrected by God, but God the Son acting in unity with the Father and the Spirit just as He always said He would. Of course, "The Trinity" is just a descriptor. My claim is that Jesus is just as much God as the one we call the Father. God exists outside of time, space, and matter, so to be born as a man, He had to step out of eternity while still remaining in eternity. .... Wanted a pair of watch dogs, named the pups Timex and Bulova. --- MultiMail/Mac v0.52 þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com .