Subj : Re: What's Your Go-to OS for To : Accession From : poindexter FORTRAN Date : Sun Feb 16 2025 10:35:29 -=> Accession wrote to Arelor <=- Ac> Huh. I had no idea any of that was going on. However, I do remember Ac> Debian being one of the first to switch to systemd fully, just didn't Ac> know it became a political thing (I guess the better question is, what Ac> _doesn't_ become political these days?). Thanks for the explanation! I never saw what the deal was with systemd. I came from the BSDs and rc files, init.d and systemd seemed similar by comparison. Ac> There's the few that have always been 'windowsized', but most have kept Ac> a pretty basic install (netboot, non-gui, whatever you want to call Ac> it). They leave it up to the user to add all the frill they want to it, Ac> and most users want the frill. You can argue that till your face turns Ac> blue, but that's honestly the only reason Linux has gained (albeit not Ac> very much) the traction it has over the years. Otherwise, people would Ac> still *only* be using Linux as servers, to this day. Yeah, Ubuntu, probably one of the most desktop/window-focused distros out there, still had a server distro - and others have the ability to select servers and deselect any window manager. I still like having a low-end window manager to be able to have multiple xterms running... > I am not a Devuan fan, exactly, but I can use it as a drop-in > replacement for most tasks I would have used Debian in the past and > its default configuration comes with a bit less overhead. And with no > systemd. I thought devuan was just a non-GPL free version of Debian? Or was that Trisquel? --- MultiMail/Win v0.52 þ Synchronet þ .: realitycheckbbs.org :: scientia potentia est :. .