Subj : Re: Charlie Kirk Murdered
To   : JIMMYLOGAN
From : Dumas Walker
Date : Sun Oct 05 2025 09:36:53

>  DW> He did help expose some hypocrasy in today's college students, even if
>  DW> you don't agree with the methods he used to to so, but his melding of
>  DW> religion and politics was objectionable and dangerous.

> I'm gonna disagree with you there. Politics is supposed to be
> "of the people, for the people, by the people." The 'people' have
> a religious belief which is inseperable from their inner being.

> For example, do you vote your religious beliefs? I would assume
> so...

Not necessarily.  Religious beliefs and moral values are related in a lot
of people, but melding politics and religion together is dangerous.  We
don't live in a theocracy.  If someone is running for office and supposedly
shares my religious beliefs, but I also believe they would ruin the
country's economy, security, etc., I would not vote for them.

There also seem to be a lot of people who believe that Donald Trump
is a person of high morals and religious values, and I believe that view is
delluded.  His expression of his feelings towards his enemies that he
expressed during the serivce for Kirk should have opened their eyes on this.

But, last I checked (which has been months now), you still have people in
FIDO POLITICS who think Trump is Jesus.  Last I checked, Jesus believed you
should love your enemies, something Trump has said he does not do.

>  DW> Only acceptable when it is against people one doesn't agree with.

> Never acceptable at all. I wasn't there, and wouldn't have
> wanted to be there on January 6th. That being said, there
> are reports of FBI people there as well. Does that cloud
> anything for you? It does for me!

I don't believe it is acceptable, but there are a lot of folks who do
believe it is acceptable so long as it is against people they don't agree
with, but not against "one of their own."  That includes both MAGAs and
lefists, by the way.

As for January 6, it does muddle things but, ultimately, if you have a
leader who is...

 (1) throwing a loser's party in DC on the same day as the certification of
the Electoral College, despite the advice from his advisors that he
probably shouldn't do it;
 (2) that believes enough that things could get out of hand that he claims
he asked for additional security;
 (3) and he doesn't decide to alter or cancel his plans when he finds out that
additional security won't be available...

then you have someone who at least shares the fault in what happened next.
Rather than accept any of the fault, Trump has deflected it all.

TL;DR - If you don't throw an ill-advised loser's party for the FBI to
infiltrate, nothing happens... or at least nothing that can be tied back
directly to you.


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