Subj : Re: market change due to To : Nightfox From : poindexter FORTRAN Date : Thu Sep 18 2025 07:38:19 -=> Nightfox wrote to Dumas Walker <=- Ni> Although layoffs are somewhat depressing, I also find it a little Ni> humorous in a weird way that a lot of tech companies have layoffs Ni> fairly often, and then hire people later for other projects. Companies Ni> always like to have new & different projects to work on so they can Ni> stay in business, but rather than keep employees, they tend to have Ni> layoffs and hire different people instead. Contractors are cheaper, and aren't laid off, you just don't extend their contract. I've worked in some environments that were project-heavy and they people were used to having their contracts end, go do something else, then come back in 6 months to work on a new project, same teams, same desk. My worst layoff story - I worked at Macromedia back in the 90s and left in 1997. They started a move from full-spectrum multimedia authoring tools to All Internet, All the Time. I was there when they bought the company that became Flash, that was the beginning of the change. When I was there, we had 400 employees and a normal organizational structure. A new CEO brought in duplicate executives (imagine having a VP of sales AND a VP of revenues) until the redundant executives left. The company ballooned to 1800 employees, then when the .com bubble burst, they began massive layoffs. The company dropped to 800 employees, 80 of which were VP level. One Tenth of the company was a VP! Layoffs for thee but not for me, indeed. .... The exception also declares the rule --- MultiMail/Win v0.52 þ Synchronet þ .: realitycheckbbs.org :: scientia potentia est :. .