Subj : Re: immigration third way
To   : poindexter FORTRAN
From : Gamgee
Date : Thu Nov 20 2025 14:07:47

-=> poindexter FORTRAN wrote to jimmylogan <=-

 -=> jimmylogan wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

 pF> I think democrats want due process with constitutional protections.

 ji> Non citizens aren't protected by the US Constitution...

 pF>  I think you might want to re-read the Constitution.

 pF> "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous
 pF> crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in
 pF> cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in
 pF> actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be
 pF> subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or
 pF> limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness
 pF> against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without
 pF> due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use,
 pF> without just compensation."

This is absolutely right - non-citizens are indeed "protected" by the 
Constitution.

However.... there *are* nuances and slight variations to this, as the 
rights *CAN* be affected by immigration status.

This fact can easily be proven by a little research, here is one link 
that supports that statement:

https://writofmandamus.com/does-a-non-citizen-have-constitutional-rights/

There are plenty of others, too.



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