X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fbb9d,47b54f7dfeef6923 X-Google-Attributes: gidfbb9d,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-03-15 11:45:26 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!lios!news.gweep.ca!not-for-mail From: Philip Newton Newsgroups: rec.arts.ascii Subject: Re: [DIS] Hello Sailors! Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 19:45:25 +0000 (UTC) Organization: very little Lines: 30 Sender: robomod@lios.aq2.gweep.ca Approved: rec-arts-ascii-moderator@gweep.ca Message-ID: References: <9a6c9942.0303070934.72c2a3d8@posting.google.com> <2hjm6vgor13p32vba7fq0s1k9p7lfjnt75@4ax.com> <37el5gtpxv.fsf@lios.aq2.gweep.ca> <9a6c9942.0303091706.55bab986@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: lios.aq2.gweep.ca 1047757525 8296 127.0.0.1 (15 Mar 2003 19:45:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@lios.aq2.gweep.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 19:45:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 20:45:07 +0100 X-Orig-NNTP-Posting-Host: p213.54.161.48.tisdip.tiscali.de (213.54.161.48) X-Orig-X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1047757509 72168871 213.54.161.48 (16 [11583]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 X-Spam-Level: Level * X-Gweep-Cleanmime: quoted=21% Xref: archiver1.google.com rec.arts.ascii:292 On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 01:07:31 +0000 (UTC), nerd42@msn.com (Nerd42) wrote: > About ASCII in windows: I meant the fancy ASCII characters like you > see in the DOS QBASIC help file, in windows they appear as "U"s and > "a"s with "^"s and things over them, but in DOS, they look like, well, > they're supposed to. What you call "fancy ASCII characters" are not part of ASCII. (One consequence of this is that art containing those characters is not "ASCII art". Another is that such art is not portable between machines -- as you saw, it looks different under Windows; other machines, especially using "non-English" fonts, will show even more different characters. Even under DOS there are differences, for example between code page 437 [the original] and 850 [commonly used in Europe], which does not have corners where double and single lines meet, for example.) Try to restrict yourself to ASCII when creating ASCII art. (On the other hand, if you're creating ANSI art, it may work if you use non-ASCII characters -- though support for ANSI escape sequences does not imply a specific font.) Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton That really is my address; no need to remove anything to reply. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.