X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f8e02,44dec4cf2e38a31f,start X-Google-Attributes: gidf8e02,public X-Google-Thread: fbb9d,44dec4cf2e38a31f,start X-Google-Attributes: gidfbb9d,public X-Google-Thread: fd705,f2d5237465b25ebc X-Google-Attributes: gidfd705,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-02-20 22:45:16 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!lios!news.gweep.ca!not-for-mail From: uj797@victoria.tc.ca (Arthur T. Murray) Newsgroups: rec.arts.ascii,comp.human-factors,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [DIS] project21 make money Followup-To: alt.folklore.computers Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 06:45:15 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Victoria Telecommunity Network Lines: 40 Sender: robomod@lios.aq2.gweep.ca Approved: rec-arts-ascii-moderator@gweep.ca Message-ID: <3e55caed@news.victoria.tc.ca> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost X-Trace: lios.aq2.gweep.ca 1045809915 12186 127.0.0.1 (21 Feb 2003 06:45:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@lios.aq2.gweep.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 06:45:15 +0000 (UTC) Summary: Bob Bemer invented the ASCII escape sequence, inter alia. Keywords: ASCII, Bob Bemer, father of ASCII, history of ASCII X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.60.222.3 X-Original-Date: 20 Feb 2003 22:45:01 -0800 XPident: uj797 X-Gweep-Cleanmime: quoted=79% miswrapped=06% Xref: archiver1.google.com rec.arts.ascii:282 comp.human-factors:4071 alt.folklore.computers:70546 "Dennis Ritchie" wrote on Fri, 21 Feb 2003: > "eric fischer" wrote > a long message about the development of ASCII, > for which he's due thanks. It began > >> Whether ASCII or ISO 646 came first depends upon the perspective >> you're looking at it from ... > > He concluded, > >> I don't know what could really have been done to make it any >> better, though. 94 printing characters just aren't enough to >> give everybody everything they want, so in a set of that size, >> any characters outside the core few that everyone agrees are >> needed either can't be included at all or have to be assigned >> with the knowledge that they won't be available everywhere. The ASCII escape sequences were invented by Bob Bemer of Texas, http://www.bobbemer.com/ -- Bob Bemer's Homepage; see also Robert William Bemer -- "Father of ASCII" bio at http://www.thocp.net/biographies/bemer_bob.htm > > As he and I noted, the basic problem is the pigeon-hole > principle for 7-bit characters. Despite ISO 10646 and earlier > partial solutions like the Latin-x encodings (for various x), > as well as HTML escape sequences, it's still a difficult > area. > > Dennis Arthur -- http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/theory5.html -- AI4U Theory of Mind; http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/jsaimind.html -- Tutorial "Mind-1.1" http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/mind4th.html -- Mind.Forth Robot AI; http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0595259227/ -- book "AI4U"