X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fbb9d,a8ba3d441e20b7d X-Google-Attributes: gidfbb9d,public X-Google-Thread: f996b,a8ba3d441e20b7d X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public From: mullen@gate.net (Allen Mullen) Subject: Re: [Picture] Dragon art thief exposed Date: 1996/09/14 Message-ID: <51el5g$4mj2@news.gate.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 180597389 references: followup-to: rec.arts.ascii,alt.ascii-art organization: CyberGate, Inc. newsgroups: rec.arts.ascii,alt.ascii-art nntp-posting-user: mullen Diane Wenner (pixel8ed@netcom.com) wrote: : Today I learned from Alex Wargacki that he is the artist : who drew the work below. [snip] Tua Xiong did some great work. His romantic pictures have been reposted here frequently. This dragon picture always seemed funny to me because it isn't his style. However, I don't think we should conclude he's an "art thief". He may not have been the person who put his name on the picture. I suspect someone years ago innocently attributed it to him by mistake. Tua Xiong posted a couple years ago and said he no longer had an Internet account. He was using a friend's account. I doubt he has seen his name attached to the dragon picture. Even if Tua Xiong attached his name to someone else's work (which I doubt), I don't think we should apply a standard used by some today to the past. Attribution is a fairly recent concept for ascii art. Years ago, no one expected their work to live on. Collectors frequently attached their names to others' work and they at least deserve credit for preserving things that otherwise would be lost. The FAQ mentions that crediting work is a new concept. There has never been a requirement for this. It may be counterproductive to get mad at those who don't credit work the way we prefer. I suspect they will be less likely to help identify the original author if they are flamed. Most readers of ascii newsgroups like to see pictures posted and rigid attribution standards may intimidate potential posters. I think we should encourage people to post pictures. If they get the attribution correct, that's great. If not, most readers will still enjoy seeing their post and serious collectors can sort out the attribution later. Allen http://www.afn.org/~afn39695/ascii.htm