X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fbb9d,3aca0f29f04cb1c7 X-Google-Attributes: gidfbb9d,public X-Google-Thread: f996b,a16f51a7a6fd5ddd X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1995-02-21 23:04:05 PST Path: nntp.gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!yale.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.wwa.com!not-for-mail From: dhaman@nmsu.edu (Dan C. Haman) Newsgroups: rec.arts.ascii,alt.ascii-art Subject: Talk: Propogation, etc Date: 22 Feb 1995 01:04:05 -0600 Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM Lines: 86 Sender: boba@gagme.wwa.com Approved: boba@wwa.com Message-ID: <3ienl5$qjb@gagme.wwa.com> References: <1995Feb08.095759.169431@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu> <3hl3fp$61m@gagme.wwa.com> <3htjem$3hu@southern.co.nz> <3hvn6p$t0m@gagme.wwa.com> <3hvols$1fi@gagme.wwa.com> <3ic9sd$140@southern.co.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: gagme.wwa.com Xref: nntp.gmd.de rec.arts.ascii:4026 alt.ascii-art:20392 Colin Douthwaite (Colin_Douthwaite@equinox.gen.nz) wrote: : Bob Allison (boba@wwa.com) wrote: : : : : In article <3hvn6p$t0m@gagme.wwa.com>, Felix Lee wrote: : : > : : >> +-- Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide. : : >> | +-- Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all : : >> | | +-- Share: % of newsrders : : >> | | | who read this group. : : >> 85000 48% 1255 3.6 9% 0.02 1.2% alt.ascii-art : : >> 31000 54% 349 1.5 19% 0.03 0.4% rec.arts.ascii : : >weird. rec.arts.ascii has better propagation but lower readership. : : >my guess is one big reason is alt.ascii-art comes alphabetically : : >near the top of the newsgroup list. : Yep, you've got it Felix - alt.ascii-art IS the TOPS ! Yaay !!! : . : /:\ : |:| : |:| : |:| *_ _ _ _ _ _ _ * : |:| __ | `_' `-' `_' `-' `_' `-' `_'| : ,_|:|_, / ) | | : (Oo / _I_ | LONG LIVE alt.ascii-art | : +\ \ || __| ^ | | ^ : \ \||___| | | Free & Unmoderated | | : \ /.:.\-\ | (*) |_ _ _ _ _ _ _ | \^/ | : |.:. /-----\ | _<">_ | `_' `-' `_' `-' `_' `-' `_'| _(#)_ | : |___| oOo | o+o \a/ \0 0/ \a/ (=) : / || 0'\a-a/\/ \/\a-a/`0 : |_____\ : / /_^_\ | | /_^_\ : | | \ \:/ || || | | || || : | | | | d|_|b_T____________________________T_d|_|b : \ / | \___ / / : / | \_____\ / / : `-' / / : ________________________/ /___________ : > the alt group gets more posts, which in turn gets more : > readers. On the other hand, the rec group is probably more : > popular with busy people who like a group with clear subject : > lines. I imagine it will always be that way. : The real test and comparison may come if and when r.a.a becomes an : unmoderated newsgroup, although the alt. group will suffer from the : propagation problem which is common to all alt. groups. : It is clear from the propagation statistics that neither group has a : monopoly on access sites and reader access must be limited for many : people. What is unknown is whether the same sites carry both groups : - if they do then we have a fairly direct comparison of the two. : Bye, Someone told me that more people could get to the rec groups, or that the alt group was restricted somehow, I'm not sure which, but if that's true I would have thought that the rec group would get more responses and posts and all. In fact, that is the reason another group I'm in is changing to a rec group. Go figure. -- | |.| |.| |\./| .,ad88888ba,. |\./| .,ad8888888888888a, . |\./| . d8P"""98888P"""\8888b, \^.\ |\\.//| /.^/ 9b d8888, `9888B \--.|\ |\\.//| /|.--/ d88aaa8888888b,,,d888P' \--.| \ |\\.//| / |.--/ 8888888888888888888888b \---.|\ |\./| /|.---/ 8888P""98888888888888P' \--.|\ |\./| /|.--/ "' 988888888888P' \ .\ |.| /. / 9888888888P' _ -_^_^_^_- \ \\ // / -_^_^_^_- _ `"98888P' - -/_/_/- ^ ^ ||| ^ ^ -\_\_\- - `"'' /_ ||| _\ /DDD /./ | \.\ /D /D |/ | \| /D /D /DDD