X-Google-Thread: fa69e,d09e7416d85b02f1,start X-Google-Thread: 10698b,d09e7416d85b02f1,start X-Google-Thread: f7c81,d09e7416d85b02f1,start X-Google-Thread: f73f8,d09e7416d85b02f1,start X-Google-Thread: 10b757,d09e7416d85b02f1,start X-Google-Attributes: gidfa69e,gid10698b,gidf7c81,gidf73f8,gid10b757,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!out02b.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!in01.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!news.alt.net From: fmfvf@yahoo.com Newsgroups: borland.public.cpp.borlandcpp,borland.public.cppbuilder.database.ado,de.alt.rec.ascii-art,de.markt.comp.hardware.cpu+mainboard,de.markt.comp.hardware.graphik Subject: M,I-5,Per secution buggin g an d counter-s urveillance Followup-To: borland.public.cpp.borlandcpp,borland.public.cppbuilder.database.ado,de.alt.rec.ascii-art,de.markt.comp.hardware.cpu+mainboard,de.markt.comp.hardware.graphik,uk.misc Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 09:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Altopia Corp. - Usenet Access - www.altopia.com Lines: 46 Message-ID: Xref: g2news1.google.com borland.public.cpp.borlandcpp:2281 borland.public.cppbuilder.database.ado:893 de.alt.rec.ascii-art:690 de.markt.comp.hardware.cpu+mainboard:6069 de.markt.comp.hardware.graphik:2260 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -= MI5: bugging and. counter-surveillance -= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- PO: >Did you ever look for the bugs in your house ? If not, why. not ? I mean if PO: >I thought that was happening. to me, I'd search the place from top to bottom, PO: >I mean I live there I would. know if anything was out of place. If I was PO: >really suspicious, I. would call in one of those bug detection teams which PO: >have. those machines that pick up the transmitted radio waves. This PO: >reminds. me of BUGS, that new programme on BBC1 on That's exactly. what we did. We went to a competent, professional detective agency in London, paid them over 400 quid to debug our house. They. used scanner devices which go to over 1 GHz and would pick. up any nearby transmitter in that range, they also checked the phones and. found nothing... but if the tap was at the exchange,. then they wouldn't find anything, would. they? CS: >Doesn't this suggest to you that there are, in fact,. no bugs to be found? You can assume that they've done this sort of thing. to other people in more "serious" cases, where. they would know the targets would suspect the presence of electronic. surveillance. So they will have developed techniques and devices which are not readily detectable. either by visual inspection or by electronic means. What those techniques might be,. I couldn't guess. In this case, the existence of bugging devices was clear from. the beginning, and they "rubbed it in". with what was said by the boy on the coach. It was almost as if they wanted counter-surveillance. people to be called in, who they knew would fail to. detect the bugging devices, causing loss of credibility to the other things I would have to. say relating to the harassment. I did all the things someone in my situation. would do to try to find the bugs. In addition to calling in professional help. using electronic counter-surveillance, I made a close visual inspection of. electrical equipment,. plus any points where audio or video surveillance devices might have been concealed. Of course, I found nothing.. Normal surveillance "mini-cameras" are quite noticeable and require. visible supporting circuitry. It seems to me the best place. to put a small video surveillance device would be additional to a piece of electronic equipment such as a. TV or video. It would be necessary to physically break in to a property to. fit such. a device. 4307