X-Google-Thread: f996b,62c4c39017079b85 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gid13235db79e,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.204.129.15 with SMTP id m15mr876668bks.2.1334018346421; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 17:39:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Path: h15ni105746bkw.0!nntp.google.com!news1.google.com!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mike Duffy Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: ASCII swastika, ascii swastikas Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 00:38:58 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Your Company Lines: 52 Message-ID: References: <7a147c71-bac9-4255-b340-26fe128d32b6@n1g2000yqk.googlegroups.com> <1558667c-737c-4b0d-9b6a-ffb24488e54b@b32g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> <977e838b-0d5f-4300-bd2c-5e7d3c2bcdb1@x7g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <0b39fc41-2a60-4870-b85c-8d31765b5636@k10g2000yqk.googlegroups.com> <81ff0e50-de54-4514-8714-e5a2d697fc76@32g2000yqp.googlegroups.com> <17891469.1749.1333960121042.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynbv36> NNTP-Posting-Host: 8GXtu24jXTHJm9OLlhLTEQ.user.speranza.aioe.org X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Arlo James Barnes wrote in news:17891469.1749.1333960121042.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynbv36: > This thread is rather amusing. It is almost a Godwin troll, only > instead of using the heinous acts committed during the circa WWII > Holocaust to falsely bolster an argument, the people involved are > arguing over the origin of logos within the government administrating > such atrocities. I fail to see how it matters. In a way, I agree with you. I take the stand that we should endevour to use the swastika (and its reflection, the swawistaka) in their original (pre-Nazi) contexts. In a way, it will "take away" this ancient symbol from those who would use it to promote racial extremism. Thus, a swastika should never appear in its Nazi form (black, vertices at the "cardinal" points, in a white circle inside a red square) unless it is in a historical context. To do so is an affront to those in living memory who lost loved ones to the Nazis. The swawistaka appears in the ancient (~5000 BC) Vinca writing system. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vin%C4%8Da_symbols We do not know exactly what these symbols mean, but there are several symbols in that set that survive via http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispilio_Tablet to the Phonecian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_alphabet the the Greek and then to the Latin) as well as early Sanskrit and East Asian ideograms. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic_signs_in_China Here are some summaries: http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/15/151.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika Hmm. and I just found this. It sums up what I feel and seems to be better organized than I am: http://reclaimtheswastika.com/ -- http://pages.videotron.ca/duffym/index.htm