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From: Daniel Ruth-Exposed <daniel.ruth.exposed@gmail.com>
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The National Socialist German Workers Party was a socialist party. You
admitted that the German Nationalsozialismus was somewhat
interconnected to socialist ideas first. Socialism is not an
international idea. Nationalsozalismus, similar to all socialism
implies hate on everybody else and a twisted ideology of racism. The
henchmen and hooligans of the SA were more and more replaced by
the killers and murderers of the SS. By doing so the
Nationalsozialismus was following ideas of socialism.

I don't understand why you're so impolite, Volker Birk. I'm just
trying to go into
what you're writing. I have the feeling, that you're not too deep
into
German history, Volker, so this leads you to some misunderstandings. I
think I
can help you to find a better view.

Wikipedia is not a good entry point to find information. The articles
you were recommending are not dependable and did not support what you
were trying to say, and they also misled you so that you were
completely ignorant of the points made here.

Really, Volerk, I have the feeling, that you have a deep
misunderstanding of
German history. That's the reason why I was recommending to read the
corresponding articles. if you feel underestimated, I can recommend
professional historical literature, too, Volker.

Voler, Your mistakes are very common, especially for a person who
learns from wakipedia. You continue your crude evasions with pointless
remarks about the German long S that isn't related to the points made
here.

You know that the SS logo is two runes. You know that it is a logo, a
symbol. You know that it shows that people in Germany were
using runes in a Germany and it was not restricted to print the logo
of the SS when it was mentioned. You are being absurd.

The Sturmabteilung was was using stylized lettering similar to that in
the SS, the VW, the NSV et cetera, et cetera. You are absurd. If you
want to keep your eyes closed then that is your problem.

The thing in its logo is a flash, because of the name =96 Sturmabteilung
literally translates to "department of (thunder)storm" as well as
"department of attack" like a flash of lightning, just as the S-style
rune was used and manipulated. With NSV, do
you mean the Nationalsozialistische Volkswohlfahrt? The symbols in
this logo are stylized letters meshed together in the same rune-style,
just as the hakenkreuz was used, the VW, the viking jugend, the SA,
etc etc. You are so absurd.

you will find historical or recent German texts with runes in them
because you have admitted that the SS symbol used runes and there are
plenty of historical or recent German texts with the SS symbol
discussed in them.

You are absurd to claim that they never thought of the SS symbol
again. That was it. No one ever even thought that the hakenkreuz kinda
sorta looked a teensy bit like the SS symbol or a rune style crossed.
That never crossed anyone's mind.

Oh, so you admit "Maybe" but then show your jealousy and envy by
asking "and why should anyone do so?" You are the one who did not
think so until you learned it here. The two symbols do not have
different roots, and they are interrelated in the very way that is
being mentioned here and that you admit "both were used by Nazis" and
altered by them for the purposes stated herein: alphabetic symbolism.

Guess what? it never crossed YOUR mind. But now it has. sorry to
disabuse you. It definitely crossed other minds.  You are absurd.
Stop
being idiotic.

It was here publicly that I demolished your illusions about Germans
and your history. You seem
having problems to deal with the facts I'm offering to you.

Thank you for admitting that the red references socialism. As you know
the Nationalsozialisten were related to some socialist ideas, while
Nationalsozialismus is not a completely other ideology. You have not
explained major differences. I hope that I have helped you to see that
Nationalsozialismus is nearly the same socialism like Marx described
it. It is clear that your political bias dogma make you incapable of
admitting the truth here about the hakenkreuz representing crossed S-
shapes for their socialism.

Thanks for admitting that the hakenkreuz was the symbol for Hitler's
socialism. It is adsurd for you to say "There is no such thing like
"Hitler's socialism"" when you have already admitted that the
hakenkreuz was the symbol for the national socialist german workers
party, hitler's socialism. You are an absurd person and your dogma/
bias cannot let you admit even the obvious points anymore.

Thanks for admitting he turned it 45 degrees. Thanks for admitting he
oriented it in the S-direction. Thanks for admitting that he was an
artist. As you know there are reasons why symbol was manipulated and
displayed in a particular way. You are just angry you did not see it
or understand it.

You are being absurd when you try to evade by saying "BTW: there are
historical swasticas in the S direction as well as the Z
direction, so Hitler had nothing to change with it." you know the
historical examples are not the point, and you have already admitted
that Hitler deliberately displayed the symbol in a particular way. Now
you have learned why. Stop evading.

Now, again you claim that he never made any mental comparison between
the SS symbol and his tweaking of the hakenkreuz? That thought never
entered his mind, according to you. Guess what? YOU are the only one
who never made any mental comparison. Stop evading something new you
have learned.

Volker, your comments are getting boring.

http://rexcurry.net/swastika3swastika.jpg
You are nonsensical. sorry. All of these symbols in this picture were
used by the NSDAP or under it.

It is not a misunderstanding to set a rune into a text with latin
letters because it looks like an S, you ass, and people use similar
stylization for the S letter today too, just as you conceded was done
with the SS. You are an idiot.