X-Google-Thread: f996b,62c4c39017079b85 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gid13235db79e,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.68.14.100 with SMTP id o4mr4644298pbc.6.1323196507481; Tue, 06 Dec 2011 10:35:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Path: lh20ni76638pbb.0!nntp.google.com!news1.google.com!volia.net!news2.volia.net!feed-A.news.volia.net!newspeer1.de.telia.net!newspeer4.de.telia.net!de.telia.net!news.tu-darmstadt.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!newsfeed.in-ulm.de!not-for-mail From: Volker Birk Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: ASCII swastika, ascii swastikas Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 18:30:06 +0000 (UTC) Organization: [ posted via ] IN-Ulm Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: <7a147c71-bac9-4255-b340-26fe128d32b6@n1g2000yqk.googlegroups.com> X-Trace: news.in-ulm.de 003C2DDE9A8E828358580A0C2B03C081 Xref: news1.google.com alt.ascii-art:1490 matt_crypto_matt_crypto@earthlink.net wrote: > ascii swastika shown below. > German national socialists did not call their symbol a swastika. They > called it a Hakenkreuz, or hooked cross and they used it to represent > crossed S-letters for their socialism (see the work of the symbologist > Dr. Rex Curry). http://rexcurry.net/swastika3swastika.jpg > Journalists and others (who claim that the nazis defamed the > "swastika" symbol) are actually the ones who continue to defame the > "swastika" by never explaining what the nazis called their symbol nor > what it represented for the German national socialists. The old media > pretend that they want to alleviate the problem, but they perpetuate > the confusion, and in a sense they ARE the problem, because they will > not explain the points above. They are vulgus profanum. > http://rexcurry.net/swastika-hakenkreuz-oxford-english-dictionary.html Hello, a swastica is usually standing on one of the flat sides, not on the corner. It was artwork of Adolf Hitler himself, who had the idea to change that, and to put a black Hakenkreuz standing on the corner in a white circle onto red background (referencing the colors of Deutsches Reich as well as the red background of socialist flags at the same time). You can see the result here: "Hakenkreuz" is just the German word for "swastica". And yes, I'm a German native speaker ;-) The SS runes are the next misunderstanding. They're not standing for "socialism", they're meaning "Schutzstaffel" (protection squadron), because this was the name of an organisation which was originally founded for guarding Adolf Hitler. They started as bodyguards, and were developed into as well the organisation who were driving the Konzentrationslager (concentration camps, and therefore murdering the prisoners there, implementing the Holocaust) as well as the organisation who were repressing the people (and peoples) and torturing, as well as a military organisation of manic killers as special forces. The latter, the Waffen-SS, were later developed into an army. Therefore you will not find one single S rune with the Nazis, everytime there were two of them. Even on typewriters you'll find that pair, i.e.: Yours, VB. -- "If /dev/null is fast in web scale I will use it." http://www.mongodb-is-web-scale.com/