X-Google-Thread: 1a7701fd52,92c0fe25b6b47e2a X-Google-Attributes: gid1a7701fd52,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Message-ID: <49FB0CF3.559FE42B@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 14:53:39 +0000 From: Veronica Karlsson X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; Linux 2.4.22-1.2115.nptl i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: misc.creativity,alt.ascii-art,alt.suicide.holiday,alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk Subject: Re: my last week has been absolute fucking shite. References: <433tr4pkpc1q459hdon0gdfqkbe7ec2bm8@4ax.com> <9115cb3b-5cd4-4233-8664-55ff1c922235@v38g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <49E4CA02.401D2D7E@gmail.com> <49E4CF34.304A4091@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Host: $$aewdndingf7m55.news.x-privat.org Organization: X-Privat.Org NNTP Server - http://www.x-privat.org Lines: 105 X-Authenticated-User: $$zzwzcpmx48o4bv3 X-Complaints-To: abuse@x-privat.org Path: g2news2.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!x-privat.org!not-for-mail Xref: g2news2.google.com misc.creativity:93 alt.ascii-art:963 alt.suicide.holiday:109644 alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk:73906 metro-golden-meower wrote: > > On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:00:20 +0000, Veronica Karlsson wrote: > > >Veronica Karlsson wrote: > >> > >> metro-golden-meower wrote: > >> > Veronica Karlsson wrote: > >> > >metro-golden-meower wrote: > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >"metro-golden-meower" wrote: > >> > >> >> this all reads like shit because i'm to fucking pissed off to say what > >> > >> >> i want too. fuck adhd. > >> > >> > >> > >> >You always come through loud and clear despite the adhd. I'm sorry about > >> > >> >your meds, it's a bitch trying to get them to fit what you need. > >> > >> > >> > >> i often just dump posts and replies because what i think i cannot put > >> > >> into words. its seriously fucking annoying. i know sometimes what i > >> > >> post makes bugger all sence to anyone. > >> > > > >> > >Your posts make sense. Humans are not computers. We have lots of > >> > >redundancy in our languages. Redundancy in this case is a Good Thing. > >> > >It means we use more than the minimum amount of information necessary > >> > >to get the message across. It's quite possible to have meaningful > >> > >conversations with people who can only say one syllable (yes, I have > >> > >met such people) as long as you are in the same room and can pick up > >> > >on the person's body language. Writn lang also contns lts f xtra info > >> > >so dropn a few letrs wont dmage th messge to mch. > >> > > >> > its not so much fucking up spellings, i find problems actualy saying > >> > in words what i want to say. its one thing to think something, its way > >> > more different to actualy say it in words. > >> > > >> > my social worker says i can be very articulate, i explained to him > >> > several times it takes a hell of a lot of effort. > >> > >> It's like when most people try to draw things. They have an image in > >> their head of what they want to draw, but the drawing that actually ends > >> up on the paper doesn't come anywhere close to the ideal in their head, > >> so they get disappointed and say "This picture sucks! I suck at > >> drawing!" and then they throw it away and refuse to try again. > >> > >> The ones who keep drawing are: > >> > >> 1. those who just don't care what the result looks like > >> 2. those who practice, practice, practice when they are alone > >> until they reach the point where the image on the paper > >> looks like the ideal > >> 3. those who realize that other people haven't seen the ideal > >> and have only ever seen the picture on the paper, and thus > >> judge the image in a very different way than the artist! > >4. Those who have some other, non-artistic, reason for > > drawing, such as spreading a message and drawing is > > just how they choose to do that. > >5. ? > > > >> I belong in the third category, and I think I must have been about eight > >> years old when I figured it out (and made a concious effort to look at > >> my own creations as if I hadn't seen the ideal image and only what is > >> actually *there*). > >> > >> This is also one of the things I like about ascii art. Because it's so > >> difficult to even get things to look like something, a proof of quality > >> is when other people can see *what* it is you meant to draw. Making the > >> picture pretty is something you *might* do, some time in the future. Or > >> Not. > >> > >> I suspect your relationship to writing (and not just yours, probably > >> much more people than you think) is like that. You have a thought, an > >> ideal "image", in your mind, and then you want to express it in words > >> and what ends up on paper (or pixels) isn't quite a 100% perfect match > >> of that ideal... Add to that a little bit of anxiety/complex/whatever > >> about your ability to work with language... (sort of like a painter who > >> knows he's both colour blind and has Parkinson's...) > > > >And the social worker only hears what you actually say, and has no idea > >of what your original thought looked like. He compares you to other > >people, not to what goes on inside your head. > > it takes a lot of effort to deal and talk to people. most of the time i don't bother as i couldn't care less. > > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eilert_Pilarm > > > >Now listening to Best of Elvis with Eilert Pilarm! (Ask Knoxy to explain > >the Swedish expression "hellre �n bra"...) > > i asked and she didn't know how to explain it. sara wasn't sure how to either. > Hmmm... "Rather than good" (not sure how well that works in English) It is something that is said about people who enjoy singing and who sing a lot even though it sounds terrible. Also, some amateurs who don't sound terrible at all say that about themselves. -- __ __ _____ _____ ______ __ _ _ _____ __ ||| \ \ ) )/ / \|| | \ \ / / \ \ | \ | || | / / \| ) \ ||.. \ \/ /| |_/| | |_/ /| | | || \ | || || | / \ |.PP. \ / | | \| | | \ \| | | || |\_\| || || | / /\ \ _\/___ \_( \_\__/||_| \_\\_\__/_/ |_| |_||_| \_\__/|(_( \_\ |_______ Troll Spokeswoman _____ http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/ ___|