X-Google-Thread: f5cdc,7de92111ae3fb6d7,start X-Google-Thread: 111f74,7de92111ae3fb6d7,start X-Google-Thread: 116147,7de92111ae3fb6d7,start X-Google-Thread: f996b,7de92111ae3fb6d7,start X-Google-Thread: 113c90,7de92111ae3fb6d7,start X-Google-Attributes: gidf5cdc,gid111f74,gid116147,gidf996b,gid113c90,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!out02a.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!in01.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news3 From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk Newsgroups: alt.arts.poetry,alt.arts.poetry.comments,alt.arts.poetry.urban,alt.ascii-art,alt.asian-image Subject: MI5 Persecution: A new Kafka? 3/10/95 (4565) Followup-To: alt.arts.poetry,alt.arts.poetry.comments,alt.arts.poetry.urban,alt.ascii-art,alt.asian-image,uk.misc Date: 23 Jun 2007 02:13:33 GMT Organization: NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $19.95 Lines: 48 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: pf4d0bfbfff0000001dfffc2970bb9df6c5810a6cef54329c.newsdawg.com Xref: g2news1.google.com alt.arts.poetry:2348 alt.arts.poetry.comments:113925 alt.arts.poetry.urban:11081 alt.ascii-art:4510 alt.asian-image:148 Newsgroups: uk.misc,soc.culture.british,uk.media,uk.politics From: jackson@soldev.tti.com (Dick Jackson) Subject: Re: What it's like to be watched by the security services Message-ID: <1995Oct13.225312.6514@ttinews.tti.com> Sender: usenet@ttinews.tti.com (Usenet Admin) Nntp-Posting-Host: soldev Organization: Citicorp-TTI at Santa Monica (CA) by the Sea References: <813188298snz129.os2.7@blackcat.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 22:53:12 GMT Lines: 34 In article bu765@torfree.net (Mike Corley) writes: > >Strangers in the street have recognized me on sight many times, and shown >awareness of the current thread of abuse. To give you one example, in 1992 >I was seriously ill, and a manager at work somewhat humouroursly said that >"it wasn't fair" that people were bullying me. A few days later, I >attended for the first time a clinic in London as an outpatient, and on my >way out was accosted by someone who asked if "they had paid my fare", with >emphasis on the word "fare". He repeated the word several times in this >different context; that they should have paid my "fare", each time >emphasising the word. > >For two and a half years from the time their harassment started until >November 1992 I refused to see a psychiatrist, because I reasoned that I >was not ill of my own action or fault, but through the stress caused by >harassment, and that a lessening of the illness would have to be >consequent to a removal of its immediate cause, in other words a cessation >of harassment. I also reasoned that since they were taunting me with jokes >about mental illness, if I were to seek treatment then the abusers would >think that they had "won" and been proved "right". I have so far not contributed to this tread, it has been unpleasant in my opinion. However, I was struck by the resemblance of the above passages to the writing of Franz Kafka. Viz. while from an objective viewpoint it seems to refer to a abnormal world, in a strange way it does resonate strongly at other levels. Mr. Corley, have you tried to write for publication? I honestly think it might lead somewhere positive. Dick Jackson (serious for a change and expecting to get beaten up) 4565