X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,395713758cdead49 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-09-23 06:28:10 PST From: Neil Franklin Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: newb question Date: 23 Sep 2003 15:27:12 +0200 Organization: My own Private Self Lines: 52 Message-ID: <6u65jjocsv.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch> References: <3577fa57.0309230359.55431b10@posting.google.com> X-Complaints-To: news@chonsp.franklin.ch NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Sep 2003 13:27:12 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-22-103.via-eth.ch X-Original-Trace: 23 Sep 2003 15:28:07 +0200, dhcp-22-103.via-eth.ch NNTP-Posting-Host: pfaff2-rz-fast.ethz.ch X-Trace: pfaff.ethz.ch 1064323687 pfaff2-rz-fast.ethz.ch (23 Sep 2003 15:28:07 +0200) Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!news.rediris.es!irazu.switch.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!chonsp.franklin.ch!not-for-mail Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:25000 anubis@email.ipagan.net (Anubis Yellowstar) writes: > txt files (zines and such), the are "justified" columns with carefully > placed, almost unnoticeable, instances of 2 spaces between words > instead of one, so that both the left and right margins line up. That is called block justification, as opposed to left justification (normal text) or right justification (unused space all at left) or middle justification (equal space at both ends). > was thinking that this would be useful when combining ascii art with > lengthy paragraphs, should i ever have need to do such a thing... is Possibly. If you want an very stylish page. > this usually done manually, or are there tools out there to assist one > in doing this without making it look like crap? There definitely are tools. They are known as text formatters. But I would assume them to wreck any ASCII art inserted. Or at least make it fairly difficult, as the Art needs to be specially marked so it does not get moved around. They are also fairly oldfashioned to use, requiring one to write the text with formatting commands inserted. The working style is a bit like writing HTML Web pages by hand (without an special web editor). Example: Text with inserted formatting commands, for the "troff" formatter: http://neil.franklin.ch/Jokes_and_Fun/crashed.8 What the formatter produces: http://neil.franklin.ch/Jokes_and_Fun/Man_Page_Crashed Compare the 2 pages to see how much you need to do. Then try and imagine inserting an ASCII art into it. This will require an .br line between each art line (so that they do not get "flowed" into one long string and then cut up to fit the page). And how one makes text appear next to the picture, without having to manually "mix" them, I do not know (I am not really an expert at this). -- Neil Franklin, neil@franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/ Hacker, Unix Guru, El Eng HTL/BSc, Programmer, Archer, Blacksmith - hardware runs the world, software controls the hardware code generates the software, have you coded today?