X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,6dc8a25c7e8a1ea X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-11-30 06:36:12 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!HSNX.atgi.net!newsfeed.iinet.net.au!newsfeed.iinet.net.au!freenews.iinet.net.au!not-for-mail From: Bateau Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: REQ: Any Islamic Art Asciis? Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:32:20 +0800 Message-ID: References: <5fj5svss8ddhd38bd8kmg3cm4vu8njilf9@4ax.com> <9k7hsvgbbcr48csfrnq0oj2ckl5dopibh3@4ax.com> <_k8yb.1667$_P6.1609@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 115 NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.59.200.44 X-Trace: 1070202857 freenews.iinet.net.au 1741 203.59.200.44 Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:646 _.--""--._ On ." ". Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:38:02 GMT | . ` ` | in \( )/ alt.ascii-art, \)__. _._(/ EvilAllah(tm) // >..< \\ spoke |__.' vv '.__/ 64 l'''"''l lines \_ _/ to _ )--( _ the | '--.__)--(_.--' | great \ |`----''----'| / undead || `-' '--' || skeleton || `--' '--' || god |l `--'--'--' |l of |__|`--' `--'|__| giant | | )-( | | ascii || )-( \|| who || __ )_( __ \\ replied... ||' `- -' \ \\ ||\_ `-' _/ |_\ /_\ _)J-._.-L( /`-\ |`- I_)O /\ O( `--l\\\| ||||( `-' `-') .-' ||| \\\ \ / / /// \ \ / / \ \ / / / \ / \ |_()I()._| \ /\ / | / \ | | | \ \ | | \ \ | | \ \ | |-nabis\ \_ | | /-._\ |.-.\ //.-._) \\\\ /// \\\\-''' ``'' >Bateau wrote: > >> Islam promotes violence and conquest. How is this not a threat? > >Let's take a look at some quotes > >Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest >who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be >purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT) > > They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, >with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, >the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether >man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB) > > Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that >some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by >encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine >the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a >detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and >completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then >you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put >the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. >That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none >of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will >turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion >on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your >ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and >keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to >him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT) > >1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, >or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you >and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or >far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or >listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but >kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the >people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he >sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of >the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, >shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy >13:7-12 NAB) > >I guess you're right, that is a pretty cruddy, violent, racist, exclusionist >religion. > >Except those quotes aren't from the koran. They're from the Judeo-Christian >bible. > >It's RELIGION that's a threat, that incites violence and hatred, not just >one particular religion. Muslims actually pay attention to the violent bits of their book. Dickhead. -- /| |\ /| /| |\ /| // || /| /| |\ // // || /| // // || || || || // // || || (( \\ || || || || / | / | || || ))= \\ ||=|| || || |/|| |/|| ||=|| (( \\ || || || || || || || || \\ // |/ || \\ // || || |/ || \| // || \\=/\\ |/ |/ || |/ \| \| |\ /| |\ |\ /| |\ |\ |\ || /| // || || || || | \ || || ||(( || || || || ||\\ || || || ))= || || || || || )) || ||=||(( || || || || ||// || || || \\ || || \\ // ||/ || |/ || \| ||==/ ||==/ \\=/\\ || || || <> \| |/ Zot