X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,aaba0d0b6dc1b0b5 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-31 03:50:28 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!h180n1fls34o1115.telia.COM!not-for-mail From: Veronica Karlsson Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: ASCII Stuff Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 11:02:46 +0000 Lines: 82 Message-ID: <3ED88BD6.7ABD5700@hotbrev.com> References: <1103_1053199699@news.kolumbus.fi> <3ec7046b$0$3540$626a54ce@news.free.fr> <1105_1053360226@news.kolumbus.fi> <3ED7994D.31F94B1F@hotbrev.com> <1fvti8s.1tchplr163caaqN%mic@dataweb.nl> <3ED8680D.4E4E9FC3@hotbrev.com> <1fvtk0u.1geivbv1aea73zN%mic@dataweb.nl> <3ED87688.1D733C11@hotbrev.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: h180n1fls34o1115.telia.com (213.67.71.180) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1054378227 7510864 213.67.71.180 (16 [58193]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; Linux 2.2.22-6.2.3 i586) Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:23379 Mic Barendsz wrote: > Veronica Karlsson schreef: > > Mic Barendsz wrote: > > > Veronica Karlsson wrote: > > > > Mic Barendsz wrote: > > > > Hang on! You're Mic! Or mic! Or miK! (?) THE Mic! Welcome back! :-) > > Chill out! > The illustrious Ice Queen from Lulea shouldn't yell like that. I think you must mean somebody else! > More like... 'Yeah right, You're mic right? The miK that made > some talentless attempts at doodling and left...' You are just trying to get me to say that you are wonderful. Well, you are! :-) > > Is netiquette "strict"? > > Absolutely! I disagree. It's not more "strict" than other plain politeness things, like saying "please". You do it because it works, because then people listen to what you have to say instead of criticising how you say it. If you don't say "thank you" when convention says you should people get offended. Similarly, when you top-post people get offended. (Then the fact that you don't say "hi" and "bye" as much in discussion groups as in real life is also about netiquette. It's simply not polite to get "too polite" and personal in such discussions. BTW, did I mention that you are a wonderful ascii artist and it's very nice to see you back?) > > In the case of top-posting that has already happened, years > > ago. Some newbies want to re-open that discussion. > > Do you do not want to re-open that discussion again? > Different people... New input... Different outcome? More like a waste of time. Sure, in Sweden people now say "du" instead of "ni", even to strangers, but most of the time the old way really is better. In any case, it's a good idea to understand why a rule exists before questioning it. Most newbies who top post don't seem to have even thought about why they do it. > > Because people want to communicate with grown-ups who already know the > > rules, not screaming babies who refuse to even consider that the rules > > might actually make sense. > > There's a difference... ? > Babies should be treated differently than newbies. When I wrote "babies" I meant it as a synonym to "newbies". > The latter are grown-ups. They simply do not dig the way Netiquettically > Correct People teach them about rules and rules and so forth... They must be the same people who talk on their phones during films or lectures. Sure, it's cool to be able to talk to people anywhere, but it's annoying for those who try to keep up with the film or what the teacher is saying. > And --also-- these grown-up babies aren't accustomed to *plain and > hard*-UseNet manners. The logical way of communicating... Like, somebody actually telling them when they are being rude? -- ##### c ^ OO /\\\\ ##### | /|\ `^^^^^^^%-- '||` | \\\\ ####-[.]\ / \ " " \ ha ha ha dd /[.]-\\\| ### _| |_ \\| ### (_ http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/cgi/asciichat/ _)} == \ / A S C I I A R T C H A T # ||\