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From: "Joaquim G�ndara" <claw@lords.com>
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Subject: Re: Fokker F100 (geek talk warning)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 13:56:29 +0200
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> Joaquim G�ndara wrote in message ...
> >"Anonymous" <guest@guest.net> skrev i meddelandet
> > news:ba23ni$8ug$1@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk
> >>
> >> Do you know where I could get a decent free text-only counter from ?
> >
> >I could make one for you, but I don't know how you would include it in
> >your page. An <IMG> could easily point to another server, but how would
> >you include another HTML page in yours? Does your ISP allow server-side
> >includes?
>
> No; ordinary home users like me don't get write access to the cgibin.  That
> would enable me to make a professional, scripted, business website.
>
> Business account holders are given this priveledge.
>
> Would it be possible to make a Javascript that would run from my page, that
> would access something on your page (say, an empty text file), and have a
> cgi on your server monitor the number of times that file was accessed?

I don't think that's possible. For security reasons, Java and JavaScript
aren't allowed to access anything outside of their domain. I think the
only solution is an IFRAME, like Dennis suggested. In that case you'd
just have to put

  <iframe src="http://www.nerd-boy.net/counter/graeme" frameborder="0"
          width=100 height=40 scrolling="no">
    Error   <!-- "Error" shown when nerd-boy.net is down -->
  </iframe>

or something like it somewhere on your page. The URL would just be a
PHP page that shows a higher number each time it's accessed.

Some website claimed that you could also use <OBJECT> to include an
HTML file in another, but I couldn't get their example to work, so
obviously it doesn't work in all browsers. That's probably true for
<IFRAME> as well, so you might want to do this:

  <iframe src="http://www.nerd-boy.net/counter/graeme" frameborder="0"
          width="100" height="40" scrolling="no">
    <object data="http://www.nerd-boy.net/counter/graeme">
      Error   <!-- "Error" shown when nerd-boy.net is down -->
    </object>
  </iframe>

That way, if a browser doesn't support <IFRAME>, it tries to use the
<OBJECT> code instead.

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