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From: "Joaquim G�ndara" <claw@lords.com>
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"Philip Newton" <pne-news-20030517@newton.digitalspace.net> skrev i meddelandet
 news:m4lbcvcnae707l35qd295ml8a4s7mvcsv7@4ax.com
> On Fri, 16 May 2003 12:13:26 +0200, "Joaquim G�ndara" <claw@lords.com>
> wrote:
> > "Anonymous" <guest@guest.net> skrev i meddelandet
> >  news:ba23ni$8ug$1@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk
> > >
> > > Do you know where I could get a decent free text-only counter from ?  My ISP
> > > (Demon Internet) don't let home users have their own CGI scripts, and while
> > > they have a cgibin, the counter in that produces graphical output.
> > >
> > > Because I can't upload and use my own CGIs, it would need to run from
> > > another server.  Any suggestions ?
> >
> > I could make one for you, but I don't know how you would include it in
> > your page. An <IMG> could easily point to another server, but how would
> > you include another HTML page in yours? Does your ISP allow server-side
> > includes?
>
> One way to do text-only counters would by JavaScript, I think; that can
> reference external scripts. Then use something like <script
> src="http://www.example.com/counter.js?site=wherever"> and have that
> /counter.js be a CGI program which counts the hit and then spits out
> some JavaScript which does document.write("2837") or the like.
>
> Requires that the visitor have JS turned on, of course.

Good idea. The counter on my website now has two different modes.
By default, it just spits out the new number, like in this example:
http://www.nerd-boy.net/counter/nerdboy

That can be inserted into a HTML-page by using an <IFRAME>. If you'd
rather use JavaScript, there's the other mode, which you can access by
just adding .js to the user id.
http://www.nerd-boy.net/counter/nerdboy.js

This one can be inserted into a page by using JavaScript:
<script language="Javascript"
src="http://www.nerd-boy.net/counter/nerdboy.js"></script>

The JavaScript style is seamless, it's like it's really part of the
webpage, not like the ugly <IFRAME>.

Now, if someone has JavaScript turned off, their browser will ignore
the <SCRIPT> tags and instead use their contents, so we can make the
counter code as failsafe as possible like this:

<script language="Javascript"
        src="http://www.nerd-boy.net/counter/nerdboy.js">
  <iframe src="http://www.nerd-boy.net/counter/nerdboy" frameborder="0"
          width="100" height="40" scrolling="no">
    <object data="http://www.nerd-boy.net/counter/nerdboy">
      Error   <!-- "Error" shown when nerd-boy.net is down -->
    </object>
  </iframe>
</script>

Disclaimer: Produced no output when I turned
            off JavaScript in Ghostzilla.

obascii:

    Irasshaimase!
        ,
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  ____ -)-
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A guy behind a counter, saying "Welcome!" in Japanese.

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