X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,280fcfe2aa99f29,start X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-Thread: 109838,280fcfe2aa99f29,start X-Google-Attributes: gid109838,public X-Google-Thread: 1129f3,280fcfe2aa99f29,start X-Google-Attributes: gid1129f3,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-03-30 10:43:43 PST Message-ID: <3E873ACC.C78919E2@dtgnet.com> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 12:43:24 -0600 From: Archimedes Plutonium Reply-To: NOdtgEMAIL Organization: whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: soc.history,alt.ascii-art,sci.archaeology Subject: Siegessaule; reflections on it Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: dtg-240.216-16-74.dtgnet.com X-Trace: newsfeed 1049049424 216.16.74.240 (30 Mar 2003 13:37:04 -0500) Lines: 59 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.16.74.240 Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.uchicago.edu!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-out.visi.com!petbe.visi.com!209.242.76.12.MISMATCH!newsfeed!not-for-mail Xref: archiver1.google.com soc.history:41175 alt.ascii-art:22566 sci.archaeology:66630 This beautiful statue came to my mind recently. And I had seen it for the very first time in 1999 when I went to Europe. It was one of the delights of my trip in Europe for I never knew such a object existed. For some reason the Germans seem to downplay this statue. But the artistic beauty of this statue is one of the finest ever produced. But I was trying to visualize Siegessaule in my mind recently and my mind was playing tricks on me for I had thought that when I saw Siegessaule in 1999 that she had a sword and not a wreath. But I suppose it was that staff that tricked me into thinking it was a sword. Or, more likely it was the Russian huge statue that does have a sword. Can someone please tell me the name of the Russian huge statue. I have only seen it on TV and pictures but not in person. Can someone tell me if Siegessaule had always had a wreath and never a sword? >From what I understand it was not damaged by the World War II. I am posting this to sci.archaeology not that antiques are the science of archaeology but due to the fact that there is no newsgroup of sci.art and there should be. I wonder if the beauty of Siegessaule is partly due to the Golden Mean Ratio and whether the artist incorporated that proportion in the statue of Siegessaule. And I post to alt.ascii-art wondering if any artist rendered Siegessaule. Too many people hype about the Brandenburg Gate, but from my impression of Germany is that Siegessaule is Germany's single finest piece of artwork, and probably the finest single statue every crafted, and far better than Michelangelo's David. So, can someone tell me if Siegessaule had always been this way of a wreathe and staff and never a sword? And what is the statue made out of? Was there ever any gold on her? Archimedes Plutonium, a_plutonium@hotmail.com whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies