X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,b0a1b09f35000e6b X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-06-22 16:30:04 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!usenet01.sei.cmu.edu!nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!lmtp2nntp!not-for-mail From: "Arthur J. O'Dwyer" Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: alter Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 19:17:19 -0400 (EDT) Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 55 Message-ID: References: <3ef0f443$0$32527$edfadb0f@dread16.news.tele.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: smtp6.andrew.cmu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: bb3.andrew.cmu.edu 1056323839 24982 128.2.10.86 (22 Jun 2003 23:17:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: advisor@andrew.cmu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Jun 2003 23:17:19 GMT In-Reply-To: Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:23803 On Sun, 22 Jun 2003, lgbeard wrote: > > "Jan Willms " wrote: > > >> There > >> Thier > > > >Ugh, yes. And the latter isn't even a word. > > :) I before E except after C rule is broken in again. > Actually about half the words do break this rule. "I before E, except after C, and in words sounding like A, such as 'neighbor' and 'weigh'... and 'their'." (In some rustic burrs, "theirs" sounds like "thurrs". But us more cultured squares pronounce "theirs" like "thayres".) > A list of words that breaks the rules, an also, the > other way around. > http://www.ojohaven.com/fun/broken.rules.html I can't help but note that a good half of the "EI" words are either German ("holstein", "fraulein"), Japanese ("nisei"), or Greek ("pharmacopeia"); and that's not even counting the occasional Chinese proper noun ("Peiping"). Besides, *I* pronounce the last three of those like "ay" anyway! > >There's also the ever popular "its" and "it's". > > An or and with its usage within the sentence structure. ? ObAscii: a holstein pharmacopeia (__) |oo|______ \/ \ \ | _ |.| * | |_| |||\_/ | | \/ ||| | /\ ||| | ||| \____/-'/ || || -Arthur