X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,95dee8b6acc08b95 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-01-15 11:21:11 PST Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art From: Harry Mason Subject: Re: Nerd Boy, episode 330 References: Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) NNTP-Posting-Host: servalan.ecs.soton.ac.uk Date: 15 Jan 2003 19:17:48 GMT X-Trace: 15 Jan 2003 19:17:48 GMT, servalan.ecs.soton.ac.uk Lines: 49 Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!server3.netnews.ja.net!south.jnrs.ja.net!server2.netnews.ja.net!news-spool.soton.ac.uk!news.ecs.soton.ac.uk!servalan.ecs.soton.ac.uk Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:21461 Anonymous wrote: > Tom Bampton wrote in message ... >>"Anonymous" wrote: >>> OK - you've heard of "'i' before 'e' except after 'c'", right ? >>> >>> Name as many words as you can where that rule applies. >>> "Receive" for one... >>> Any others, anyone ? >> >>friend, fiend, worried, wield, and many more. >> >>What ? Well, you didnt say which PART of the rule! > > Smartass ;o) > > OK, so how's about the part where you get "CEI" in that order in words as > part of the rule ? > > Like in "Receive" (which is my only example)... Unix knows all. Examples: [harry@wraith ~]$ grep -i '[^c]ie' /usr/share/dict/words |wc -l 1557 [harry@wraith ~]$ grep -i cei /usr/share/dict/words |wc -l 45 including "ceiling", "conceit", "conceive", and "receipt". Counterexamples: [harry@wraith ~]$ grep -i '[^c]ei' /usr/share/dict/words |wc -l 327 [harry@wraith ~]$ grep -i cie /usr/share/dict/words |wc -l 91 including "ancient", "science", "glacier", and a *ahem* "sufficiency" of plural forms of "-cy". | | | | | | | Evidently "rules" of language are | | | | | | | not always useful, as there are a | | | |===| )---( great deal of inconsistencies. As |_|_| |___| |___| languages go, however, English is \ / ).( [_] incredibly rich and expressive; a \-/ \|/ U simple paragraph such as this can hjm ' ' have many subtleties of language. -- Harry Mason ("hjm200.ecs@soton@ac@uk" =~ tr/@./.@/)