X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,f1109e89c6ab007e X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-10-11 14:12:52 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!west.cox.net!cox.net!p01!news2.west.cox.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art From: Faux_Pseudo Subject: Re: ascii art underground References: <069jpugvvq22vk3rsr4tv23d4endk4p0nu@4ax.com> Reply-To: Faux_Pseudo@yahoo.comERCIAL X-PGP-Server: wwwkey.nl.pgp.net X-Why: are you reading this? X-PGP-KeyID: CF4DA06B Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 98 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 21:12:51 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.8.9.87 X-Complaints-To: abuse@cox.net X-Trace: news2.west.cox.net 1034370771 68.8.9.87 (Fri, 11 Oct 2002 17:12:51 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 17:12:51 EDT Organization: Cox Communications Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:19906 _.--- Bateau spoke in alt.ascii-art --------._ > ____ On Tue, 01 Oct 2002 19:12:53 GMT > \__/___ Faux_Pseudo ran through the > LI-\o-' streets of alt.ascii-art > | waving an axe and screaming: > / \ >> _.--- Bateau spoke in alt.ascii-art --------._ >>> >>> They're very similar. Don't be such fucking nazis. It's not like he's >>> flooding the group with ANSI art. He's just trying to do something for >>> the fucking scene. >> >>One of the best things a person can do for any scene is accurately >>represent it. > > So everyone in the scene should do nothing but pure ascii art in case > some cock like you mistakes their efforts as THE ENTIRE SCENE and gets > the wrong idea? You wait a week to call me a cock? Damn. You must really like me. Anyway all things are relative. THIS group is an ASCII group. He came in advertising ASCII but made other comments that did not lend weight to the idea that ASCII was actually what he meant. What he meant was ANSI. This group and my ideas do not represent the entire scene. But in his posts he claimed to represent the whole scene (ASCII/ANSI) but was unable to differentiate between the two and maintained that they were interchangeable. Would you vote for a guy who ran under the idea of being a Democrat and then stepping up to the ballot and finding a (R) next to his name? One must accurately represent what they are selling. He was selling ANSI but advertising ASCII. That is not good for the scene. Especially in an ASCII group. And please refrain from the ad hominem attacks. They don't do much to strengthen your arguments. > >>If I told someone to wear their favorite tie dye shirt to the goth >>club we will be going to then he is going to be really pissed of find >>that I misrepresented the situation. > > I fail to see the analogy seeing as pure ascii art is perfectly > acceptable to the ANSI scene. But ANSI is not acceptable in THIS ASCII GROUP. This group gets pissed about non-ascii char sets, groups.google colorized art. You name it. This is alt.ascii-art, and not alt.ansi-art. ASCII existed before ANSI and while ASCII is a subset of ANSI just as a square is a rectangle a rectangle is not always a square. > Not to mention that all ascii characters are available to ANSI artists > and frequently make up virtually their entire works. ANSI can be ASCII but it doesn't work the other way. > I've seen a lot > of ANSI artists that guys like you consider "off topic" who make > better pure ascii art than you and the other whingers put together. And that is all fine and good. I haven't got a problem with ANSI art. I haven't got a problem with ANSI artists who also do ASCII art. I have a problem with people advertising ASCII and then offering ANSI and not knowing (much less acknowledging) the difference. Add to that a web site that isn't even compliant to text based browsers (Which I use) and we are looking at some real issues for the scene. > Because your text editor is not a person. And apparently neither are > you if you can't get past the technical differences. The world (especially art and computers) revolve around technical differences. And I have been called an unperson before so you will have to try harder if it is your intent to continue the ad hominem attacks. >>I like some ANSI art. I >>don't have a problem with it. But just as Gogan and Van Gogh who >>where working together with the same paints and same scenes they are >>two different animals with two different ideas and visions. > > So why do you have a problem with Palmore inviting ascii artists to > join an ANSI group? A good ascii artist will probably be far better at Because it was advertised as an ascii group and not an ansi one. And that a the site he offered won't even display on a text browser or mozilla (netscape based browser for those not in the know). > ANSI than someone who's tried neither. God damn you're such a fuckwit > and I can't believe you're wasting my time like this. Because I am a trained professional. 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