X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,90c7c913f8c07932 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-11-11 11:22:53 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!nycmny1-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!colt.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail From: "Sam Blanning" Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: The History of Giving the Finger Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:22:27 -0000 Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <3DCFE6CA.E133849F@erols.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.134.46.245 X-Trace: newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk 1037042573 13596 217.134.46.245 (11 Nov 2002 19:22:53 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 11 Nov 2002 19:22:53 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:20547 "William R. Snyder" wrote in message news:3DCFE6CA.E133849F@erols.com... > The History of Giving the Finger: > _ > /'_/) > ,/_ / > / / > /'_'/' '/'__'7, > /'/ / / /" /_\ > ('( ' ' _~/' ') > \ ' / > '\' \ _.7' > \ ( > \ \ > > Giving the Finger > *snip* > Much to the bewilderment of the French, the English won a major upset > and began mocking the French by waving their middle fingers at the defeated > French, saying, "See, we can still pluck yew! PLUCK YEW. > > Since'pluck yew' is rather difficult to say, the difficult consonant > cluster at the beginning has gradually changed to a labiodental fricative 'F', > and thus the words often used in conjunction with the one-finger-salute are > mistakenly thought to have something to do with an intimate encounter. That 'pluck yew' bit sounds a tad tenuous to me. I always heard that the French cut *two* fingers off the English archers, so the traditional English salute is with two fingers up, not one. The symbol was later partly corrupted, partly reinvented, rather like the 'thumbs up/down' gesture, to one finger making a fisting reference.