X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: f996b,90c7c913f8c07932 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-11-12 01:37:19 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!212.75.92.6!not-for-mail From: "Joaquim G�ndara" Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: The History of Giving the Finger Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 10:37:53 +0100 Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: <3DCFE6CA.E133849F@erols.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.75.92.6 X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1037093838 12592680 212.75.92.6 (16 [102694]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:20573 "Anonymous" skrev i meddelandet news:aqqedo$abg$1@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk > > Pete wrote in message ... > >I very much doubt the pl/f theory... even morphing from one to the other > >the l is resilient. Afaik the word originated in elizabethan england, > >where it was visibly branded onto people "For Unclean Carnal Knowledge". > > "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" was abbreviated to "F.U.C.K." and was > written on the chalkboard beside each prison cell that was occupied by a > prostitute. > > Thus the most used word in the English dictionary was born... :oD Merriam-Webster: http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=fuck > Etymology: akin to Dutch "fokken" to breed (cattle), > Swedish dialect "fokka" to copulate Online Etymology Dictionary: http://www.geocities.com/etymonline/f5etym.htm > Written form only attested from early 16c. (O.E.D. supplement cites 1503 > in the form fukkit; earliest appearance of current spelling is 1535) [...] > It apparently is hinted at in a scurrilous 15c. poem written in bastard > L. and M.E., titled "Flen flyys." The relevant line reads: Non sunt in > celi quia fuccant uuiuys of heli "They [the monks] are not in heaven > because they fuck the wives of Ely." Fuccant is pseudo-L., and in the > original it is written in cipher. The earliest examples of the word > otherwise are from Scot., which suggests a Scand. origin, perhaps akin to > Norw. dial. fukka "copulate," or Swed. dial. focka "copulate, strike, > push," and fock "penis." Another theory traces it to M.E. fkye, fike > "move restlessly, fidget," also "dally, flirt." [...] There's lots more there. He mentions the German "ficken", for example. However, the early spelling "fukk" seems to contradict the acronym theory. -- OO Joaquim G�ndara .||. http://www.Nerd-Boy.net bb jg