X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,90c7c913f8c07932 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-11-11 12:32:21 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!lnewspeer00.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!emea.uu.net!server1.netnews.ja.net!pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk!yellow.csi.cam.ac.uk!ppb23 From: Pete Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: The History of Giving the Finger Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:32:13 +0000 Organization: University of Cambridge, England Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <3DCFE6CA.E133849F@erols.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: yellow.csi.cam.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: ppb23@yellow.csi.cam.ac.uk In-Reply-To: Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:20550 > That 'pluck yew' bit sounds a tad tenuous to me. I always heard that the > French cut *two* fingers off the English archers, so the traditional English > salute is with two fingers up, not one. The symbol was later partly > corrupted, partly reinvented, rather like the 'thumbs up/down' gesture, to > one finger making a fisting reference. Two fingers up, indeed. I very much doubt the pl/f theory... even morphing from one to the other the l is resilient. Afaik the word originated in elizabethan england, where it was visibly branded onto people "For Unclean Carnal Knowledge". OA: /| |( / \ | `. / .-, | | , , / | ;=; ' burning match. Looks diddleable. \_|=|/ | | | | | | | | |_|