X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,10730325ff30b3c6 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-05-31 14:31:25 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!netnews.com!xfer02.netnews.com!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!cyclone.socal.rr.com!cyclone3.kc.rr.com!news3.kc.rr.com!twister.neo.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Jill S" Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art References: Subject: Re: oooooh controversy! Lines: 72 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 21:36:23 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.27.223.76 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.neo.rr.com 1022880983 65.27.223.76 (Fri, 31 May 2002 17:36:23 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 17:36:23 EDT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online -- Northeast Ohio Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:17488 -- -Jill S. "slim" wrote in message news:uffoigmjrfljc2@corp.supernews.com... > I agree with you totally.....but that is not what I am saying. Its like > this....ok so appearantly there are limitations between ANSI and ASCII....that > I learned....cool by the way to learn something in USENET hehehe Anyway, As I > mentioned in another post. There are ways to break the what people think are > confines of an art. Sure it maybe hard to do and take time to accomplish but > it can be done. For instance, lets say you take a Standard Black/White > Ascii...ASCII is b/w right? I think so....anyway if you take a piece of ascii > art that some say cannot be hued. I say it can be done....sure it may not be > "PURE" ascii art, but I question what is pure art. Maybe its ANSI art as > someone told me earlier...either way it is art. It is a perception. What you > may perceive as art some else maybe not, but that is the beauty of art. In > other words, if its b/w that is still art, because drawing with charcoal > pencil can be art.....drawing with a burnt piece of wood could be art, but so > is color. I say lets (as artists) explore the validity and definition of art. This is an ASCII Art NG. Not a general -Art- NG. If you want to explore other things, it's no longer ASCII. That's the point I was trying to make. :) > With that said here are some questions. > > Do you think that if the art was done in text, whether ANSI, ASCII or some > other kind that it degrades the purity of the arts? If so, why? ASCII art is art that can be viewed on all systems. That's the beauty of it. If it's mixed with ANSI, or HTML, then not everyone can see it anymore. So in a way, yes. > Here is something else I thought is interesting....most people wouldn't accept > ANSI or ASCII as art. The average Joe so to speak. I think they are > wrong...but it goes back to the perception thing again. Yup :) > Would you be interested in see a piece of text art that was color....lets say > on a black background? Do you say that is not art? No, we say it's not ASCII art. ASCII art and art are different. > > ****======/=/==== > ****=====/=/===== > ****====/=/====== > ****===/=/======= > ****==/=/======== > > > Is the above example art? or just ASCII art simply? Is there a difference? Art is what you make of it. Yes. :) > Let me know what you think..... I enjoy discussing this stuff.