X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,138eebc638a5f8df X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-03-02 02:52:49 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!hub1.nntpserver.com!news-dc.gip.net!news-fw.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!feeder.kornet.net!news1.kornet.net!not-for-mail From: "Phydeaux" Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: Followup - Re: Unattributed Ascii-Art? Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 19:56:42 +0900 Organization: Korea Telecom Lines: 51 Message-ID: References: <3c7d1dae.55189793@news.mpinet.net> <3c7d2eea.14287247@news.t-online.de> <3c7d9394.2160508@205.158.27.245> <3c7e222b.526620@news.atlantic.net> <3c7eeaa5.2839347@news.atlantic.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.113.76.141 X-Trace: news1.kornet.net 1015065558 24253 210.113.76.141 (2 Mar 2002 10:39:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@feeder.kornet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 10:39:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:15261 "JamesDad" wrote... > Methinks that 8 letters would be a bit much. I was thinking more like > four, since few people (such as former president George Herbert Walker > Bush) have FOUR initials. Most have three, fewer two. Yeah, 8 letters overdoes it a bit. One more to add to the list: ?HYSTA? - Have You Seen This Artist? > I'm starting to pick > up a little bit of consensus that a symbol before and after would also > help distinguish it from initials. Also, once it's agreed on what the code > for "Unattributed" or "Unknown" will be for the group and it's had a > little while to be in the FAQ, it would gain common use simply because of > how frequently it's referenced. I concede that consensus. :) > IMHO, simple and distinguishable, including a symbol at each end would be > the best guidelines for such a mark. [NOSIG], and such work well > for such a purpose. I know I put some of these kind in myself as examples, > but the personal disclaimer type like IDDI (I Didn't Do It) or the > solicitation for creatorship ?DUDT? (Did You Do This?) doesn't seem to > have the right tone for me, now that I've thought about it. For myself, I > use ascii-art in a variety of ways, like popping them into emails or posts > in other parts of Usenet, so a more low-key symbol that just says "I > respect the artist; I just don't know who did it" would be more on target. > That's my 2c. I still like the ring of . It doesn't have the "it wasn't me, honest!" tone to it as some of the others do, as you pointed out. I also believe that this should not be a word in the english dictionary, so if someone wants to search out artwork, they can do so without having to wade through every conversation in which the word "unknown" was used. Of course, the -only- thing we here at alt.ascii-art find to be unknown has only been the artist of a work, but every little bit helps. ;) And that's my 10 won to throw in the pile. ObAscii: _ .' . '. . # T # . ' _]_[_ ' '. _ .' (a rough estimation of the tails side of a 10-won piece) -Phydeaux