X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f9e16,50ac4d927580fd95 X-Google-Attributes: gidf9e16,public X-Google-Thread: fc9f9,50ac4d927580fd95 X-Google-Attributes: gidfc9f9,public X-Google-Thread: f996b,50ac4d927580fd95 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-Thread: 107d75,50ac4d927580fd95 X-Google-Attributes: gid107d75,public X-Google-Thread: fcfb9,8461e7153691c525 X-Google-Attributes: gidfcfb9,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-03-25 10:11:38 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net!newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.flame.jesus.christ,alt.seduction.fast,comp.text.tex From: The Ghost In The Machine Subject: Re: Incredible! Anti-Gravity device works and is patented 01-31-2002 References: <3C9CF5D7.7090806@mmcable.com> <3C9D03E4.9090806@mmcable.com> <3d2q9uk0fkp2vgj5nb15nacr508n22o1sv@4ax.com> <3C9D15D7.8070103@mmcable.com> <3C9E2499.2040906@mmcable.com> <3C9EC891.9E0D4787@cumulus.com> Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.3 (Linux) Lines: 71 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 18:11:36 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.162.48.226 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1017079896 209.162.48.226 (Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:11:36 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:11:36 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net X-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:11:38 PST (newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net) Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:16247 comp.os.linux.advocacy:219186 alt.flame.jesus.christ:74325 alt.seduction.fast:80281 comp.text.tex:43361 Followups. In comp.os.linux.advocacy, GreyCloud wrote on Sun, 24 Mar 2002 22:49:53 -0800 <3C9EC891.9E0D4787@cumulus.com>: > Robert Bowmaker wrote: >> >> > They don't even know how electricity works yet we use it every day. >> > >> > Nobody has EVER seen electricity nor understand the principles of what >> > makes it work? Which direction does electricity flow in? Negative to >> > positive poles or the other way around? >> > >> > They've never explained any of this and we've been using electricity for >> > over a hundred years now. >> >> Electricity happens when electrons travel from the negative >> terminal to the positive terminal. Millions of people know that >> for certain; I think you're a little behind. >> > > No, the universities still don't know which way electrons > flow. > Do you know that when an electron jumps from a lower orbit > to a higher orbit a photon is emitted?? But in the process > of emitting a photon the electron disappears during the > transition? Erm...how long does *that* take? The electron of course reappears after the photon is emitted, of course (in a lower energy band); there's also the little philosophical question as to how electrons exist, as well, since they're conventionally represented as probability clouds (the ns orbitals look like spheres, but the np orbitals look like teardrops or fingers, if memory serves; the d and f orbitals might look like something else, for all I know :-) ). And we can't "see" them, in the conventional sense, except by bombarding them with something (photons, usually). I could see the transition happening within a very small fraction of a second at most (1*10-8 m / 3*10^8 = 3.33*10^-17 sec or so; the 1*10-8 m, IIRC, is the "average" width of an atom but I may have misplaced a decimal point :-) ). I could also see the photon and electron combining to create a transitory particle, which immediately decays into an electron in a higher energy state (electrons in orbit have negative energy, because they're in a "well" of sorts). However, that's about as up-to-date as my knowledge is on particle theory. As for electron flow -- meaningless, in some sense, with respect to AC, as the electrons move back and forth. To be sure, they move back and forth very long distances (60 Hz = 5,000 Km lambda). > >> The fact that we haven't seen electricity means that we can't >> use it. We haven't seen covalent chemical bonding happen, yet >> we use it all the time! >> > > That's the way the corporate droids want it to be. They'd love it, I'm sure; can't have the amateur chemists duplicating copyrighted chemicals now, can we? :-) -- ewill3@earthlink.net -- insert random OpenCola here EAC code #191 38d:01h:52m actually running Linux. [ ] Do you want this message to be private? Oops, too late.