X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f9e16,50ac4d927580fd95 X-Google-Attributes: gidf9e16,public X-Google-Thread: fc9f9,50ac4d927580fd95 X-Google-Attributes: gidfc9f9,public X-Google-Thread: f996b,50ac4d927580fd95 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-Thread: 107d75,50ac4d927580fd95 X-Google-Attributes: gid107d75,public X-Google-Thread: fcfb9,8461e7153691c525 X-Google-Attributes: gidfcfb9,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-03-25 09:51:06 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net!newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.flame.jesus.christ,alt.seduction.fast,comp.text.tex From: The Ghost In The Machine Subject: Re: Incredible! Anti-Gravity device works and is patented 01-31-2002 References: <3C9CF5D7.7090806@mmcable.com> <3C9D03E4.9090806@mmcable.com> <3d2q9uk0fkp2vgj5nb15nacr508n22o1sv@4ax.com> <3C9D15D7.8070103@mmcable.com> <3C9E2499.2040906@mmcable.com> <3C9E6CBF.5070408@mmcable.com> Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.3 (Linux) Lines: 89 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 17:51:04 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.162.48.226 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1017078664 209.162.48.226 (Mon, 25 Mar 2002 09:51:04 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 09:51:04 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net X-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 09:51:05 PST (newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net) Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:16246 comp.os.linux.advocacy:219179 alt.flame.jesus.christ:74324 alt.seduction.fast:80280 comp.text.tex:43360 Followups. (Should I instead send this subthread to sci.physics? :-) ) In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Charlie Ebert wrote on Sun, 24 Mar 2002 18:18:07 -0600 <3C9E6CBF.5070408@mmcable.com>: > Robert Bowmaker wrote: >>>They don't even know how electricity works yet we use it every day. >>> >>>Nobody has EVER seen electricity nor understand the principles of what >>>makes it work? Which direction does electricity flow in? Negative to >>>positive poles or the other way around? >>> >>>They've never explained any of this and we've been using electricity >>>for over a hundred years now. >> >> >> Electricity happens when electrons travel from the negative >> terminal to the positive terminal. Millions of people know that >> for certain; I think you're a little behind. >> >> The fact that we haven't seen electricity means that we can't use it. We >> haven't seen covalent chemical bonding happen, yet we use it all the time! >> > > This has NEVER been proven. Thanks for playing. > > They have never even seen electricity so they don't really know. How does one "see" electricity, anyway? We can't even determine with our 5 senses whether water is wet! We deduce it from: - observing a cooling effect when a wet finger is exposed to moving air, - looking at a meniscus in a test tube, and - observing that one can pour water. Note that water in a paraffin container has a different meniscus, as does mercury (if one can still obtain it -- it was outlawed in thermometers some time ago) in a glass container. It might be more accurate to say that "water wets glass" (adheres thereto), but that "water does not wet paraffin" -- making the verb "to wet" purely transitive. [*] At best, one can sense a small electric shock, such as that caused by rubbing one's feet on carpet on a dry day and approaching a doorknob or other metal object with one's finger; one can feel the spark jumping over and might even see the minute flash. We can deduce that: - electricity can flow from finger to metal, or from metal to finger (I forget precisely which; the principle employed here is occasionally used in Van de Graaf generators) - electricity can ionize air, and - ionized gas glows. (The latter is used in a lot of lighting products, such as fluorescent tubes and neon advertising signs; a variant is used in televisions and fluorescent tubes (which are a two-stage process: the gas in a tube glows with UV light which excites the phosphors coating the tube; in a TV set the electrons excite the phosphors directly, after being shot in a stream deflected (in most cases) by electromagnetic coils wound around the neck of the tube [+]).) [snip for brevity] >> We're talking about the Beifeld-Brown effect, NOT OPERATING SYSTEMS!!! >> There's another thread going on for that! >> > > I'll look this up. Thanks for being the ONLY OTHER person who's > bothered to at least offer a theory. I'm going to have to look this up as well. At least one other poster has commented on Telsa making his back yard a bright blue glowing color, which corroborates with the Philadelphia experiment giving the ship a bright green color. However, I'm not sure how much stock to put in either observation at this time. [rest snipped] [*] This usage is a slightly different meaning than "to wet oneself". :-) [+] Electrostatic deflection was used in the past. -- ewill3@earthlink.net -- insert random misquote here EAC code #191 38d:00h:30m actually running Linux. You were expecting something relevant down here?