X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f9e16,50ac4d927580fd95 X-Google-Attributes: gidf9e16,public X-Google-Thread: fc9f9,50ac4d927580fd95 X-Google-Attributes: gidfc9f9,public X-Google-Thread: fcfb9,8461e7153691c525 X-Google-Attributes: gidfcfb9,public X-Google-Thread: f996b,50ac4d927580fd95 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-Thread: 107d75,50ac4d927580fd95 X-Google-Attributes: gid107d75,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-03-25 08:55:36 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-01!supernews.com!207.217.77.43.MISMATCH!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net!newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.flame.jesus.christ,alt.seduction.fast,comp.text.tex From: The Ghost In The Machine Subject: Re: Incredible! Anti-Gravity device works and is patented 01-31-2002 References: <3C9CF5D7.7090806@mmcable.com> <3C9D03E4.9090806@mmcable.com> <3d2q9uk0fkp2vgj5nb15nacr508n22o1sv@4ax.com> <3C9D15D7.8070103@mmcable.com> <3C9E2499.2040906@mmcable.com> Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.3 (Linux) Lines: 76 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 16:55:34 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.162.48.226 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1017075334 209.162.48.226 (Mon, 25 Mar 2002 08:55:34 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 08:55:34 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net X-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 08:55:35 PST (newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net) Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:16244 comp.os.linux.advocacy:219158 alt.flame.jesus.christ:74321 alt.seduction.fast:80278 comp.text.tex:43352 In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Charlie Ebert wrote on Sun, 24 Mar 2002 19:10:35 GMT <3C9E2499.2040906@mmcable.com>: > . wrote: >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Charlie Ebert wrote: [snip for great brevity] >>>Gravity is a mass attraction and it's been discovered how >>>to neutralize the mass attraction and this has implications >>>for the mass production of a great many things. Pedant point: I'm not sure "neutralize" is the right word here. Counteract, perhaps? Bernoulli's Principle is used every time a plane takes off, for example, but I for one would not consider an airplane a device for "neutralizing" gravity. All the original experiment proves is that one can lift small objects off the ground using electrostatic repulsion; nothing horribly mysterious about that, really, although it could be employed in interesting ways if one can work around the air ionization issue. I will admit to some puzzlement as to why it works over a non-conductive wooden table, though. There are vaguely similar devices for electromagnetic repulsion; a specially-wound flat coil is used to set up eddy currents in a ferromagnetic bowl, which levitates and gets rather hot. The electrostatic variant appears to use far less power. It would be interesting to increase the area of the capacitor and make a strange hovercraft -- the main problem, however, is that grounding is essential for the repulsion to work, as far as I know. If the power plant is on the hovercraft it will have to dangle a wire, at least during initial launch (and possibly to counteract ion migration as well). >> >> >> It sure does, which is why it is essential that it is not >> discounted entirely as "science fiction". Maybe we'll never >> come up with an actual anti-gravity device....But if we believe >> that it is not possible at all, we ABSOLUTELY never will. >> >> Thatd be missing out on quite alot. >> > > They don't even know how electricity works yet we use it every day. > > Nobody has EVER seen electricity nor understand the principles of what > makes it work? Which direction does electricity flow in? Negative to > positive poles or the other way around? Depends. I know that sounds strange, but we originally got it backwards with "conventional current"; diodes still point the "wrong" way around, for example. (Pedant^2 point: zener diodes are supposed to be installed "backwards". :-) ) It gets even more complicated with alternating current; the electrons move -- quite a distance in fact for 60 Hz = 5,000 Km [*], give or take -- but on average end up in the same place since they're moving back and forth, as opposed to unidirectional direct current (DC). [rest snipped] [*] I'm not sure if an electron moves through lambda or half-lambda. This value assumes lambda. It's also not clear that copper conducts electrical energy at the speed of light (it's close, though). -- ewill3@earthlink.net -- insert random misquote here EAC code #191 38d:00h:29m actually running Linux. Hi. I'm a signature virus.