X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f9e16,50ac4d927580fd95 X-Google-Attributes: gidf9e16,public X-Google-Thread: fc9f9,50ac4d927580fd95 X-Google-Attributes: gidfc9f9,public X-Google-Thread: 107d75,50ac4d927580fd95 X-Google-Attributes: gid107d75,public X-Google-Thread: fcfb9,8461e7153691c525 X-Google-Attributes: gidfcfb9,public X-Google-Thread: f996b,50ac4d927580fd95 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-03-24 18:02:44 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!cyclone.socal.rr.com!cyclone3.kc.rr.com!news3.kc.rr.com!twister.kc.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3C9E8549.2050702@mmcable.com> From: Charlie Ebert User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020311 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.flame.jesus.christ,alt.seduction.fast,comp.text.tex Subject: Re: Incredible! Anti-Gravity device works and is patented 01-31-2002 References: <3C9CF5D7.7090806@mmcable.com> <3C9D03E4.9090806@mmcable.com> <3d2q9uk0fkp2vgj5nb15nacr508n22o1sv@4ax.com> <3C9D15D7.8070103@mmcable.com> <3C9E2499.2040906@mmcable.com> <3C9E6CBF.5070408@mmcable.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 140 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:02:49 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.94.230.113 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.kc.rr.com 1017021737 24.94.230.113 (Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:02:17 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:02:17 CST Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:16217 comp.os.linux.advocacy:218888 alt.flame.jesus.christ:74288 alt.seduction.fast:80244 comp.text.tex:43297 Robert Bowmaker wrote: > "Charlie Ebert" wrote in message > news:3C9E6CBF.5070408@mmcable.com... > >>Robert Bowmaker wrote: Allow me to repost what you deleted from your own statements here: >>Electricity happens when electrons travel from the negative terminal >>to the >>positive terminal. Millions of people know that for certain; I think >>you're >>a little behind. >> >>The fact that we haven't seen electricity means that we can't use it. >>We >>haven't seen covalent chemical bonding happen, yet we use it all the >>time! >> >>>>They don't even know how electricity works yet we use it every day. >>>> >>>>Nobody has EVER seen electricity nor understand the principles of what >>>>makes it work? Which direction does electricity flow in? Negative to >>>>positive poles or the other way around? >>>> >>>>They've never explained any of this and we've been using electricity for >>>>over a hundred years now. >>> >>> And we can see where you deleted the above text which was right here. >>>Electricity happens when electrons travel from the negative terminal to >> > the > >>>positive terminal. Millions of people know that for certain; I think >> > you're > >>>a little behind. >>> >>>The fact that we haven't seen electricity means that we can't use it. We >>>haven't seen covalent chemical bonding happen, yet we use it all the >> > time! > >>This has NEVER been proven. Thanks for playing. > > > It's been proven BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT. The theory seems to fit > electricity's properties perfectly. Maybe it's not absolutely proven, but it > works so well (i.e. it predicts everything that really happes perfectly) > that it doesn't really matter if it's proven or not. The same can not be > said for gravity, though. We don't have a clue about gravity at all, no > theories that really help explain it. Except of course for Superstring > Theory (that's another thread by itself!). Perhaps when Superstring Theory > is 'finished', we'll be able to have anti-gravity things, teleporters, time > travel (!)... But until then, it might be best to leave all the serious > speculating to the scientist. > Well, it's another theory. It's still not proven. We really still don't know how electricity works. We don't. We've never seen it. But I find the balance of your comments more in-line with reason than not. > Also, the lifter needs ~15,000V (from memory) of electricity to work. If you > scaled this 'lifter' up by a factor of 10 in all directions, would you still > only need 15,000V? Or would you need 150,000V? Or even 15,000,000V? It > starts to get impractical. > And from a previous post this man said this. >We're talking about the Beifeld-Brown effect, NOT OPERATING SYSTEMS!!! >There's another thread going on for that! And I told him then I would research this and I have. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Beifeld-Brown+effect&btnG=Google+Search Seems like every link to the subject mentions anti-gravity as the mechanism. And I have to say to this man, very good research sir. Very good. Okay, perhaps yttrx will join us again then. So we need some serious voltage to make this work effectively. And a functioning fusion power system would provide that juice. Check out these several points. Townsend Brown and his Anti-Gravity Discs by Gaston Burridge http://www.100megsfree4.com/farshores/tbrown.htm 1) PROXIMITY OF PLATES 2) DIELECTRIC CONSTANT This one will vary in space of course. 3) INTENSITY 4) VOLTAGE This one has been discovered by them also. 5) MASS (SURFACE AREA) They seem to have already discovered this one an their web site. Whoo, whoo! Here's something they didn't try. http://darlabs.com/AGCon2.html The maximum rotation rate that we were able to get around the center pole was about 12 rpm, which comes out to 3.39km/hr (2.11mph). This was achieved with the smaller two foot diameter disks. They are rotating the disks to produce yet another effect. Looks like he mis-spelled the effect so google corrected it for us. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Biefeld-Brown+effect&spell=1 And we find yet another 327 links. Pretty awesome Robert! I have to say I'm impressed with this guy. How about you yttrx. What do you think. Charlie