X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,dbf9ef5f321276fe X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-01-01 05:42:41 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed.news.nacamar.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!news.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!not-for-mail From: Markus Gebhard Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: new idea for jave: layers Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 14:45:28 +0100 Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany Lines: 47 Message-ID: <3C31BD78.52C573F6@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: wn4-jarjar.wn4.uni-karlsruhe.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de 1009892558 13670 172.20.12.141 X-Complaints-To: usenet@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:13228 Hi Peter, You are not the first one who wanted to persuade me to add layer support to JavE. In fact I use layers very often when doing pixel imaging and I know how powerful this technique is. For Ascii-Art it would mean something new that has never been here before, and - as you already stated - for ascii animations it was priceless. > can you handle that markus? not now but in a future version (but > preferrably as soon as possible) I am pretty sure I am able to implement it - but as far as I can see it would cost me a lot of time. Supporting layers would mean modifications in very complex parts of JavE - display engine, crash recovery, jmov-to-editor interaction, selection feature, etc. etc. Also it would imply lots of other stuff: a new file format, a well designed user interface to manage the layers and work with them, etc. At this point when looking at the design and source code of JavE I think it would be a good idea to write a completly new JavE - starting from zero with only reusing the agorithms from Jav3. Unfortunately I do not have the time (or money) to do that. I have to concentrate on writing my dissertation instead. So I will continue dreaming of this great feature and rather concentrate on fixing bugs, making improvements and adding minor features. obascii: slightly enhanced freehand painting in future version: ,.. __......._ /' .--' `-. before /' '`.. ,' '-..__ _,' ,.. __......._ '''''''' ,' .--' `-. ,' after ``.. ,' `-..__ _,' `''''''' About solid spaces: There already is something like that in JavE: In most situations Shift+Space will provide a solid space. This works e.g. in the brush tool. Markus -- \-/ http://www.jave.de O_< Get JavE now! \-/ J|a|v|E /| J|a|v|E /-\ Ascii-Art for eyeryone / \ - for free! /-\