X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,b8b1a663c4829ea5 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-01-03 17:09:40 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!ctb-nntp1.saix.net!not-for-mail From: Mel Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: Mr.Genius Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 03:10:46 +0200 Organization: www.AdderleyStreet.co.za Lines: 162 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: dial76.mindspring.co.za Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ctb-nnrp2.saix.net 1010106578 15076 196.25.102.76 (4 Jan 2002 01:09:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@saix.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Jan 2002 01:09:38 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:13366 On Wed, 02 Jan 2002 00:52:58 -0000, anonymous@bogus_address.con sucked my dick and said: >On 2002-01-01 mel@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za said: > > [...snip...] > >...the presidents of America all share the same bloodline... > >they are all closely related to one another... > >...the Bushes and Clintons all descend from ancient royal > >family bloodlines... > >...these people's families have earned their wealth > >over centuries from all manner of shit deals... like the > >Kennedy's whose wealth comes from Opium smuggling (into > >China during the 1800s) and alcohol bootlegging (during the > >Prohibition)... > >...JFK was eliminated because he didn't want to play the > >"old boys" game and have a nice little war in vietnam... >Heh! Melvin, you're an idiot. actually I've done the research... you're just doing the poo pooing... back in yer box...! >You've pumped yourself so full of leftist B.S., you don't >know WHAT you believe...as evidenced by your contradictory >ramblings, quoted above. not contradictory... the fact that the Kennedy family is part of the ancient bloodline ruling class does not mean that they're protected from being killed should they wander from what the Brotherhood wants... >You also have no insight into the innate characteristics >of human nature. yer an idiot... proved by the above sentence... >Brought down to its most fundamental level, human nature is >comprised essentially of jealousy, vanity, lust and greed. yes... so...? >If you took an average nigger off the streets of Jo'burg >and gave him 10 billion Rand, a large comfortable house, >and several fancy cars, do you think he would 'share the >wealth' with his less-fortunate compatriots? yes... as a matter of fact the average black person adheres to a concept known as ubuntu... most black communities share and help each other a lot... but then I live in South Africa and I actually know what goes down here... you are just guessing... and therefore you get it wrong... >Hell, NO! He'd start using and oppressing his brethren >for his own selfish purposes. And YOU would, too. Robert Mugabe is _not_ the model of African life... >That's human nature, son. you'll be surprised how different people are in different cultures... not everyone places the same value on accumulating vast fortunes at the expense of everyone else... hunter gatherer tribes certainly do not... the San of the Kalahari bushveld want very simple things... like the ability to hunt again and live according to their old way of life... you're prolly a city boy like me... and our culture is one of greed and separation... cities are places of loneliness... cities are actually a cancer on the planet too... satellite photos of cities resemble tumour growths... cities do not breed healthy human beings... >But your biggest error is looking for answers through some >communal endeavor. That will NEVER work...because of the >inherent characteristics of human nature (outlined above). well city folk do not make great communists... that's why they'll prolly have to die first... which is likely to come through communicable diseases... the problem is not with the concept of co-operation... it's the people not being willing to adapt their fixed ideas... adapt or die... since some will not adapt, they will die... >In the idealized 'peoples republic' which you described, >it would take only one Warburg, or Stalin, or Gill Bates >-- just ONE megalomaniac -- to attain a little bit of >power within your bureaucracy, and you'd eventually be >faced with the same problems all over again. funny how hunter gatherer tribes were completely sustainable within their own rights... it took a bunch of European city boys with xtian ideals and rifles to fuck it all up... but in and of themselves, the Australian aborigines lived a completely naturally sustainable life... take 9.9 out of 10 Australians living in a city and dump them in the outback and they will all die within weeks... >That's human nature, you silly little git. no... it's European city culture... European civilisation has brought us to the point where the planet groans with the pressure we place on its resources... this planet never needed over 6 billion people... we don't need economies of scale to feed billions when a few million people are all we need... none of us should work... we should all stroll the veld in tribes hunting and gathering... we don't need technology, we don't need to build... we can all live under the stars exactly like the animals do... and we will be happier than we are now... >The concept of 'redistribution of wealth' is a fallacious >pipe-dream, intended to appeal to the 'have-nots'...who >are generally so stupid and unsophisticated about eco- >nomics that they can't see they're being flim-flammed. all that you see will be destroyed... that is one true fact of the Bible, even though I don't consider myself a believer... every endeavour of man will be extinguished... everything we accumulate, everything we achieve... how do I know this? Because in this universe everything has a beginning and everything has an end... so it is no longer important for human kind to achieve anything, just like a lion does not have to achieve anything... achievements are only important if they are lasting... this line of thinking gives some credence to building spiritual riches... >Fact is, if ALL THE 'WEALTH' IN THE WORLD was evenly >'re-distributed' among all the =people= in the world, >EVERYBODY would be living in poverty. I've heard this before... and perhaps, if it were possible, it would still be the thing to do... the fact is, this world has real wealth to enable us to live... real wealth is oxygen, water, land, animals, plants, minerals etc... some we need, some we only desire... it is not important that our desires are met... only our needs... fortunately sex is one our of needs... if we are to produce new generations... >And even THEN, there'd be some Gill Bates-style megalo- >maniac who would figure out a way to separate people from >whatever little bit of money they have. money should not exist... it is only necessary in a culture where people wish to accumulate artificial wealth... >That's human nature, you idiot Honky. >Get real. Get a brain. Get some insight. Smash your >modem, reboot, and kill yourself. Or at least take >your idiotic polemic to a different newsgroup. no... I won't comply with any of your demands... now what yer gonna do...? -- smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself if in doubt, suck me www.AdderleyStreet.co.za