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without BUGS and being a Memory HOG, Windows IS THE BEST O/S....
but with the present given problems... ;)


"Mart van de Wege" <mvdwege.usenet@drebbelstraat20.dyndns.org> wrote in
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> On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 11:58:56 +0100, brokenbroker@ytp.net wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 19:20:47 GMT, FinaliDentity <no@spam.com> wrote:
> >
> >>"Mirak" <karim-boucher@wanadoo.fr> wrote in
> >>news:3c56e685$0$206$626a54ce@news.free.fr:
> >>
> >>> All taht you say is that france is lucky because they are the first
> >>> team to win a world cup and a euro in a row ? AHAHAHAHAHAH Is it luck
> >>> to lose only 3-2 against holland with bench players ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Let's see, Holland, so "great" a footballing power that ...
> >>
> >>THEY DIDN'T QUALIFY FOR THE WORLD CUP???!!! Geez, you'd think you could
> >>come up with a better example than THAT! :)
> >
> > Don't you think it's weird that Holland didn't qualify? Perhaps they
> > have too many stars which therefore splits the team. When playing their
> > best, many believe (incl. me) Holland to be about the best.  It's their
> > team spirit/sum of egos that's their problem.
> >
> <snip>
>
> Ok, one off-topic x-post and I'll shut up. Apologies to all.
>
> The problem with dutch teams, the national side included, is *mentality*.
> We dutch fans, and by extension the coaches and players, like a carefully
> structured, tactically intelligent passing game. For this you need a team
> with good players (check), a smart coach (check) and good form (always a
> variable).
>
> The ego problem of too many stars and no team exists, but the major
> problem is bad form. When the form isn't there, the team can't play its
> favourite game, so then it would be time to just go in there and *fight*
> for every mm of grass. Unfortunately, we don't have the players with the
> right sort of mentality for that style, like the germans and the english.
> In fact, teams and players that are able and willing to employ this style
> of play are roundly boo-ed by both press and public. Only one major team
> in our league has this as its 'house style', and unsurprisingly, it is
> widely regarded as an 'ugly' team (Feyenoord Rotterdam).
>
> Therefore, on good form, the Netherlands can beat anyone, on bad form they
> in turn can be beaten by everyone.
>
> Mart
>
> --
> 'Come not between the Nazgul and his prey! Or he will not slay thee in thy
turn.
> He will bear thee away to the houses of lamentation, beyond all darkness,
> where thy flesh shall be devoured,
> and thy shrivelled mind be left naked to the Lidless Eye'