X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f4f17,15af5515548b5f51 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4f17,public X-Google-Thread: fc9f9,15af5515548b5f51 X-Google-Attributes: gidfc9f9,public X-Google-Thread: fe7ce,15af5515548b5f51 X-Google-Attributes: gidfe7ce,public X-Google-Thread: f996b,15af5515548b5f51 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-Thread: fcfb9,15af5515548b5f51 X-Google-Attributes: gidfcfb9,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-01-28 20:21:29 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net!newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.politics.socialism,alt.seduction.fast,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: What does everyone reckon our chances are for the Euro 2004 qualifying? From: FinaliDentity References: <3c55c27f$0$251$edfadb0f@dspool01.news.tele.dk> <3c55c608$0$4617$626a54ce@news.free.fr> Message-ID: User-Agent: Xnews/4.06.22 Lines: 37 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 04:21:29 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.215.221.187 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1012278089 63.215.221.187 (Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:21:29 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:21:29 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net X-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:21:29 PST (newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net) Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:14222 alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian:35298 alt.politics.socialism:14994 alt.seduction.fast:74122 comp.os.linux.advocacy:182896 drsquare wrote in news:jgkb5uon8u22vptusq25flqkuc2e10q5hi@4ax.com: >>FRANCE wil win world cup 2002 and euro 2004 > > You must be fucking joking. It won't be anywhere near as easy this time. > > Simple points about France: in WC 98 barely knocked out Paraguay barely knocked out Italy met weakest of remaining 3 semifinalists final opponent didn't show in Euro 2000 barely knocked out Spain barely knocked out Portugal lost 99.9% of the final game In the last seven major competitive matches we've seen, there has been literally no dominance of a worthy opponent. for WC 2002 did not have to qualify ... rusty? They've been coasting on luck for too long. I look for them to seriously falter in the first round ... not that their opponents are worthy (Senegal!!?? c'mon ...) ... Smart money's on Italy. Ugly football, to be sure, but the best current difference between odds and likelihood out there (market value versus P-E ratio, so to speak). Football is always on topic.