X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f4f17,15af5515548b5f51 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4f17,public X-Google-Thread: fc9f9,15af5515548b5f51 X-Google-Attributes: gidfc9f9,public X-Google-Thread: fe7ce,15af5515548b5f51 X-Google-Attributes: gidfe7ce,public X-Google-Thread: f996b,15af5515548b5f51 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-Thread: fcfb9,15af5515548b5f51 X-Google-Attributes: gidfcfb9,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-01-30 02:57:56 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsmi-us.news.garr.it!newsmi-eu.news.garr.it!NewsITBone-GARR!elvis.franken.de!chico.franken.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!newsfeed.hanau.net!bnewspeer00.bru.ops.eu.uu.net!bnewsifeed02.bru.ops.eu.uu.net!lnewspost00.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!emea.uu.net!not-for-mail From: broken broker (brokenbroker@ytp.net) Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.politics.socialism,alt.seduction.fast,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: What does everyone reckon our chances are for the Euro 2004 qualifying? Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 10:58:56 GMT Message-ID: <3c57cfd0.3518600@news.dial.pipex.com> References: <3c55c27f$0$251$edfadb0f@dspool01.news.tele.dk> <3c55c608$0$4617$626a54ce@news.free.fr> <3c56e685$0$206$626a54ce@news.free.fr> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Lines: 51 NNTP-Posting-Host: userif78.uk.uudial.com X-Trace: 1012388258 news.dial.pipex.com 236 62.188.213.83 X-Complaints-To: abuse@uk.uu.net Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:14264 alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian:35396 alt.politics.socialism:15029 alt.seduction.fast:74628 comp.os.linux.advocacy:183805 On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 19:20:47 GMT, FinaliDentity wrote: >"Mirak" wrote in >news:3c56e685$0$206$626a54ce@news.free.fr: > >> All taht you say is that france is lucky because they are the first >> team to win a world cup and a euro in a row ? >> AHAHAHAHAHAH >> Is it luck to lose only 3-2 against holland with bench players ? >> > >Let's see, Holland, so "great" a footballing power that ... > >THEY DIDN'T QUALIFY FOR THE WORLD CUP???!!! Geez, you'd think you could >come up with a better example than THAT! :) Don't you think it's weird that Holland didn't qualify? Perhaps they have too many stars which therefore splits the team. When playing their best, many believe (incl. me) Holland to be about the best. It's their team spirit/sum of egos that's their problem. > >Now, seriously, I believe France have a very good side -- maybe the best >midfield general playing today (Zidane), definitely a very deep side >(during Fr98 a full 20 players saw at least 90 minutes on the pitch). But I >don't believe their recent FINAL success (to actually WIN the tourney) is >representative of their ability. That is true. They always seem to coast against teams not at their best. I have never seen them play really out of their skins. > If they breeze through the qualifying >rounds of JK02, nuke their round-of-16 opponents, and easily reach another >Final Game, I'll change my tune. For now, however, the evidence is spotty. >Yes, they won -- but are they really THAT dominant? They are one of the 4/5 teams likely to win. Is any one team really that dominant? > >Best money right now (greatest difference between available odds, and >likely performance; aka, discrepancy between market-value and P-E ratio) >Italy. Worst money right now, Argentina. The political unrest is bound to >have an effect. I'll have to have a flutter on Italy. The odds are going to better where the bet is less popular (probably england where its legal to bet and where england is the popular bet).