X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,138eebc638a5f8df X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-02-28 05:46:37 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!netnews.com!xfer02.netnews.com!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!news1.atlantic.net!not-for-mail From: mewnews@softhome.net (JamesDad) Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: Unattributed Ascii-Art? Organization: Not a Heck of a Lot Message-ID: <3c7e2c40.3102603@news.atlantic.net> References: <3c7d1dae.55189793@news.mpinet.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/16.243 Lines: 133 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 13:46:22 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.208.96.131 X-Complaints-To: news@atlantic.net X-Trace: news1.atlantic.net 1014903578 209.208.96.131 (Thu, 28 Feb 2002 08:39:38 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 08:39:38 EST Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:15173 To Sum Up: As They Say in "The Phantom" Comics, "For Those Who Came In Late..." Since I started this thread and there may be (hopefully) a good amount of discussion, I'll offer to serve as "secretary" and periodically post a summary of the discussion thus far. On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 18:33:44 GMT, mewnews@softhome.net (JamesDad) wrote: >I want to respect your work, and I do keep your initials on any ascii-art >I reuse. However, sometimes I use a piece of ascii-art that had no >attribution on it when I got it, such as this hug (which I did diddle to >include my glasses and beard); > > ___ .~~~~ . ___ > ____( \ /________\ / )____ > (____ \_____ / |(@||@)| \ ______/ ____) >(____ A HUG FOR U`-----( > )-----'A HUG FOR U ____) > (____ _____________@@ .___. @@______________ ____) > (______/ @@@.____.@@@ \______) > @@@@@@@@@@ > @@@@@@@@ > > (View this in a monospaced font like Courier New or else > you'll think this is a Picasso instead of a hug!) > >Has there ever been a discussion of a simple way to indicate that a piece >of ascii-art is from an unknown source? The FAQ states, "If an ASCII ART >picture doesn't have initials on it, mention that you didn't draw it when >posting it". Could there (as a simple alternative) be a standard code or >initials to do that instead? I know I'm not going to be putting "I didn't >draw this and don't know who did" every time I use a piece of >unattributed ascii art. Things I was thinking about might include: > > UNK : UNKnown source. > #AU# : Artist unknown. The "#" characters would highlight that it was > > not someone with the initials "AU" who did the artwork. > *U* : again, Unknown source. > #NBM# : Not By Me > UNATTR : UNATTRibuted; artist unknown. On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 19:13:13 GMT, astfuture@lastfuture.de (Peter -lastfuture- Marquardt) added: > this sure is a great idea... i kinda like it.. not your particular > suggestions but the idea of marking unattributed ascii art to > distinguish it from "self made free for use" ascii art :) > i think there will be discussed about it and maybe a new standard will > emerge :) it's definitely a thing to spend some thought on mikechat.remove@bluedwarf.spam.net (MJP) put in his two cents' worth in on 28 Feb 2002 02:52:15 GMT; > hmm I do like -=NBM=- (not by me) or -UNK- though either *could* be a > sig too. > OBASCII: Respect (Tomb of the Unknown ASCII Artist) (very appropriate, Mike; your OBASCII was unattributed) On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 13:04:08 GMT, mewnews@softhome.net (JamesDad) got back into the act: > We could even set a date (say, May 1--I thought about April 1 but since > that's April Fool's Day...) to give someone time to speak up and say "I > use that already!" or "I know someone who uses that one!" After the date > chosen, it would BE the alt.ascii-art indicator for unattributed > ascii-art, and it would be up to the artist to change his/her form of > attributing their artwork to avoid confusion. Four or more letters could > minimize that risk, too; > ^QAA-A^ = "Query Alt.Ascii-Art" to find the artist. > *RHIUDT* = "Raise Hand If You Did This" > !ANSU! = "Attribution Needed: Speak Up!" > +AUSU+ = "Artist Unknown: Speak Up!" > ?DUDT? = "Did U Do This?" > ~IRAAAU~ = "I Respect Ascii-Artists: Artist Unknown" > (FISAU) = "Fill In Space: Artist Unknown" > ...putting symbols before and after the letters could help highlight > that the letters...are an indicator that the letters relate to the clip > being unattributed. > Or the indicator could be all symbols; > [***] = Like a password field; it's unknown what's behind the asterisks. > I'm not as concerned about WHAT the indicator is...as I am that there BE > one; simple and easy to remember... > OBUASCII: (OBligatory Unattributed ASCII art) Bill the Cat as a Bat BTW, Hope you like my "Picasso" footer to my ASCII-Art postings; I think it *has* minimized some confusion. I had another thought along similar lines to float; with all the diddling that goes on, someone with a good diddle of another's original should be given credit too. Take the example I gave of my crude effort at making a "James Report" header (see my first post). Proper credit could be given by an initial set like MW/jgs. I don't think putting EVERY diddler would work; sigs as big as the artwork (MW/jgs/VK/MGP/LV/aa/lgb/SO would be getting ridiculous), just the most recent diddler (and MAYBE a particularly exceptional intermediate diddler) would suffice. So MW/jgs/VK/MGP/LV/aa/lgb/SO would simply be MW/SO. I offer this for your consideration as well. OBUASCII: (Extended ASCII-art from my BBS days, converted with 7bit) +------------------------------+ |People who accuse Christians | |of being "Bible Bangers" are | |usually far more intolerant | ################ |than the people they accuse | ##################### |of intolerance. Plus, they | ######################### |usually haven't read the book.| ######### ############## | +---------------------------+ ############ # ############### | | ############### ################# | +-------+ ############################################### +----------+ ################################################# ######################## ################## ############### ################# ############### ################ ################# ################### ###################### ================================================== WASUP! Teaches Zoology: What did the fish say when he hit a concrete wall? Dam! ==================================================