X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,138eebc638a5f8df X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-02-28 05:04:18 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!news1.atlantic.net!not-for-mail From: mewnews@softhome.net (JamesDad) Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: Unattributed Ascii-Art? Organization: Not a Heck of a Lot Message-ID: <3c7e222b.526620@news.atlantic.net> References: <3c7d1dae.55189793@news.mpinet.net> <3c7d2eea.14287247@news.t-online.de> <3c7d9394.2160508@205.158.27.245> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/16.243 Lines: 68 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 13:04:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.208.96.231 X-Complaints-To: news@atlantic.net X-Trace: news1.atlantic.net 1014901042 209.208.96.231 (Thu, 28 Feb 2002 07:57:22 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 07:57:22 EST Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:15172 On 28 Feb 2002 02:52:15 GMT, mikechat.remove@bluedwarf.spam.net (MJP) wrote: >On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 19:13:13 GMT, lastfuture@lastfuture.de (Peter -lastfuture- Marquardt) wrote: >>On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 18:33:44 GMT, mewnews@softhome.net (JamesDad) >>wrote: >>>UNK : UNKnown source. >>>#AU# : Artist unknown. The "#" characters would highlight that it was >>> not someone with the initials "AU" who did the artwork. >>>*U* : again, Unknown source. >>>#NBM# : Not By Me >>>UNATTR : UNATTRibuted; artist unknown. > > hmm I do like -=NBM=- (not by me) or -UNK- though either *could* be a > sig too. My thought is that once a generally agreed-upon indicator (perhaps two or three to cover the possibility you mentioned) was settled on and put in the FAQ (and maybe the pointer, too?), anyone who was already using the indicator as a sig would have a chance to speak up. If someone did, then we'd know and fall back to the other(s). We could even set a date (say, May 1--I thought about April 1 but since that's April Fool's Day...) to give someone time to speak up and say "I use that already!" or "I know someone who uses that one!" After the date chosen, it would BE the alt.ascii-art indicator for unattributed ascii-art, and it would be up to the artist to change his/her form of attributing their artwork to avoid confusion. Four or more letters could minimize that risk, too; ^QAA-A^ = "Query Alt.Ascii-Art" to find the artist. *RHIUDT* = "Raise Hand If You Did This" !ANSU! = "Attribution Needed: Speak Up!" +AUSU+ = "Artist Unknown: Speak Up!" ?DUDT? = "Did U Do This?" ~IRAAAU~ = "I Respect Ascii-Artists: Artist Unknown" (FISAU) = "Fill In Space: Artist Unknown" I think you and I agree at least that putting symbols before and after the letters could help highlight that the letters are not initials but are an indicator that the letters relate to the clip being unattributed. Or the indicator could be all symbols; [***] = Like a password field; it's unknown what's behind the asterisks. I'm not as concerned about WHAT the indicator is (these are just some examples) as I am that there BE one; simple and easy to remember so that others would recognize it as such. That would help distinguish who is intentionally stripping attributions and who is innocently using unattributed ascii-art, not knowing who the artist is. OBUASCII: (OBligatory Unattributed ASCII art) -. .- _..-'( )`-.._ ./'. '||\\. _ _ /| ACK! .//||` .`\. ./'.|'.'||||\\|.. \'o.O' / ..|//||||`.`|.`\. ./'..|'.|| |||||\``````=(___)=''''''/||||| ||.`|..`\. ./'.||'.|||| ||||||||||||. U .|||||||||||| ||||.`||.`\. /'|||'.|||||| ||||||||||||| ||||||||||||| ||||||.`|||`\ '.|||'.||||||| ||||||||||||| ||||||||||||| |||||||.`|||.` '.||| ||||||||| |/' ``\||`` ''||/'' `\| ||||||||| |||.` |/' \./' `\./ \!|\ /|!/ \./' `\./ `\| V V V }' `\ /' `{ V V V ` ` ` V ' ' ' ======================================= A Word on Etiquette from WASUP! Next time wave all your fingers at me! =======================================