X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f4f17,1fea113a30411707 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4f17,public X-Google-Thread: fc9f9,1fea113a30411707 X-Google-Attributes: gidfc9f9,public X-Google-Thread: fe7ce,1fea113a30411707 X-Google-Attributes: gidfe7ce,public X-Google-Thread: f996b,1fea113a30411707 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-Thread: fcfb9,1fea113a30411707 X-Google-Attributes: gidfcfb9,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-02-04 09:45:16 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net!newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3C5EC8A3.7090605@mindspring.NS.com> From: Jonathan Ball User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.politics.socialism,alt.seduction.fast,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: drsquare is a useless troll was Re: What does everyone reckon our chances are for the Euro 2004 qualifying? References: <3C5AC13B.9060609@mindspring.NS.com> <0lhl5ugo85pjshh3t861eimu9gq7n7tumk@4ax.com> <3C5ACEF7.1010005@earthlink.NS.net> <3C5D92E7.2070002@mindspring.NS.com> <3C5EBF1A.8070808@earthlink.NS.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 43 Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 17:45:13 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.32.17.92 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1012844713 66.32.17.92 (Mon, 04 Feb 2002 09:45:13 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 09:45:13 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net X-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 09:45:14 PST (newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net) Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:14405 alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian:35725 alt.politics.socialism:15312 alt.seduction.fast:74965 comp.os.linux.advocacy:187345 firstoftwins wrote: > "Jonathan Ball" wrote in message > news:3C5EBF1A.8070808@earthlink.NS.net... >>>>You don't know what you're talking about. The fact >>>>that so few shots make it past the goalie is due to a >>>>great extent to the defense. The defender reduces the >>>>number of angles for the shooter, but he can't take >>>>away all of them. >>>> >>>> >>>Exactly. And in football, they defend better, >>> >>Too easily. >> >>Get rid of "offside" in soccer, then it would be >>interesting. What a goddamned stupid rule: you have a >>guy who skillfully gets behind the defender *and* is >>co-ordinated enough to receive and control the pass, >>and it's disallowed. Moronic; utterly moronic. >> >> > You idiot! Fucking goal sneak. If it's against the rules right now, then go ahead and enforce the rule. But it's a stupid rule. The game would be better without it. There are similar rules in hockey. First, there's also an "offside": when the attacker is past the opponents' blue line before the puck. Second, there's the two-line pass: when an attacker is beyond the center (red) line, and his teammate passes to him from behind his own blue line. But there's no "moving" line, as in soccer. The National Hockey League is considering eliminating the two-line pass rule. I think they should; the remaining offside rule is perfectly adequate by itself.