X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,138eebc638a5f8df,start X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-02-27 10:33:55 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: mewnews@softhome.net (JamesDad) Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Unattributed Ascii-Art? Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 18:33:44 GMT Organization: Not a Heck of a Lot Message-ID: <3c7d1dae.55189793@news.mpinet.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/16.243 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 129 Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:15139 I've long been a fan and admirer of ascii-art (going back to typewriter-art days), though I've never had the opportunity (or patience) to figure it out and do it myself. I admire you guys and gals for what you do. I want to respect your work, and I do keep your initials on any ascii-art I reuse. However, sometimes I use a piece of ascii-art that had no attribution on it when I got it, such as this hug (which I did diddle to include my glasses and beard); ___ .~~~~ . ___ ____( \ /________\ / )____ (____ \_____ / |(@||@)| \ ______/ ____) (____ A HUG FOR U`-----( > )-----'A HUG FOR U ____) (____ _____________@@ .___. @@______________ ____) (______/ @@@.____.@@@ \______) @@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@ (View this in a monospaced font like Courier New or else you'll think this is a Picasso instead of a hug!) I don't want to be known as someone who doesn't respect ascii-artists (I'm in awe of a lot of the stuff you do), so here's my question (and I have just read the FAQ); Has there ever been a discussion of a simple way to indicate that a piece of ascii-art is from an unknown source? The FAQ states, "If an ASCII ART picture doesn't have initials on it, mention that you didn't draw it when posting it". Could there (as a simple alternative) be a standard code or initials to do that instead? I know I'm not going to be putting "I didn't draw this and don't know who did" every time I use a piece of unattributed ascii art. Things I was thinking about might include: UNK : UNKnown source. #AU# : Artist unknown. The "#" characters would highlight that it was not someone with the initials "AU" who did the artwork. *U* : again, Unknown source. #NBM# : Not By Me UNATTR : UNATTRibuted; artist unknown. My hug might then appear as: ___ .~~~~ . ___ ____( \ /________\ / )____ (____ \_____ / |(@||@)| \ ______/ ____) (____ A HUG FOR U`-----( > )-----'A HUG FOR U ____) (____ _____________@@ .___. @@______________ ____) (______/ @@@.____.@@@ #AU# \______) @@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@ (View this in a monospaced font like Courier New or else you'll think this is a Picasso instead of a hug!) And if someone KNEW who the artist was, they could let me know or if I found an attributed version later, I'd just need to change the #AU# to JGS, VK, or whoever created it. I was thinking of this particularly this morning; I was on Veronica's site, and she had some art on her "oldest" page that she didn't even attribute (which I added before saving). Also, I found some ascii-art of spiderwebs (which is the main thing I was looking for), and more than half of them were unattributed. I'm getting ready to make a header for a personal newsletter called "Webb-Spinnings", and I was looking for spiderwebs, naturally. I'd like to see some discussion on this subject, and hopefully a "standard" code emerging (which could be added to the FAQ) that, among other things, I can use on my "Webb-Spinnings" header to indicate that I respect giving ascii-artists credit for their work, even when I don't know who did it. OBASCII: FYI, this is the closest I've gotten to doing my own ascii-art; it's the original header for an e-newsletter I was sending out to people while my son was fighting his cancer battle; ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | TTTT j a m m eeee sss ppp tt | | TT j aaa m m m ee s RRR p p ooo tttt | | TT H H EEEE j j a a m m eeee sss R R eeee ppp o o rrr tt | | TT HHH EE jjj s RRR ee p ooo r tt | | TT H H EEEE sss R R eeee p r tt | ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | The James Report--Jan. 1, 1997 Via Internet to You! | ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | Reply to: mike.webb@cde.com afn15029@afn.org or mike.webb@juno.com | | Children & Families staff reply via cc:Mail to "Webb, Michael E." | ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | "...and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer | | of a righteous person is powerful and effective." James 5:16 | ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sometime after that, I was perusing alt.ascii-art at that time, and asked the First Lady of Ascii Art (Joan Stark) if she could help with another need, and she also diddled my header (I checked my oldest James Report which included this; she didn't claim any credit, but I gave her credit in the newsletter). :"^"-._.-"^"-._.-"^"-._.-"^"-._.-"^"-._.-"^"-._.-"^"-._.-"^"-._.-"^": : _ _______) _______) ________) : : {\o/} (--| (--| (--|__) ,__) : : /_\ ||_ _ | _,,_,_, _ , | \ _ ,_ _ ,_-|- : : __|| |(/_ |(_|| | |(/_/_) __| \(/_|_)(_)| | : : ( (__| ( \_ | : : : : The James Report-February 3, 2000 Via Internet to You! : :-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-: : Reply to: afn15029@afn.org or mwebb@dwebs.dwebs.net : :-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-: : James Webb is on the Web ~~ Visit the Miracle Kids Page at : : http://www.themiraclekids.com/ : :-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-: : "...and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer : : of a righteous person is powerful and effective." James 5:16 : :"^"-._.-"^"-._.-"^"-._.-"^"-._.-"^"-._.-"^"-._.-"^"-._.-"^"-._.-"^": Thanksamundo! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "JamesDad" (my name is Mike--I'm James' Dad) is a nym I use in honor and memory of my son James Webb (1992-2000), slain in battle fighting leukemia. His story is told on the webpages http://www.themiraclekids.com/james.htm and at http://www.themiraclekids.com/mem-james.htm. He was a greater man at 8 than many ever become. May the message of his life not be forgotten!