X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,c7651e2a193030d0 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-12-27 19:06:13 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!not-for-mail From: "Tom Bampton" Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: [CAAN] Request for Hierarchical Category List Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 03:06:38 -0000 Lines: 66 Message-ID: References: <3e0cbfc6$0$35803$edfadb0f@dread15.news.tele.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: edendev.demon.co.uk X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1041044773 18905 193.237.172.117 (28 Dec 2002 03:06:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 03:06:13 +0000 (UTC) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Priority: 3 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:21240 "lgbeard" wrote in message news:di0q0vsgf2vq8fcaoohpc3sg7ifgtjcdt4@4ax.com... > On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 22:02:08 +0100, "CeeJay" wrote: > > Xern also wrote -- > > "Would someone contribute a hierarchical list of categories to help CAAN > to have the feature 'Browse by category'?" > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I think the a few reason why no one may be incline to contribute yet > > 1. Selling or distributing E-mail address Found nothing saying > it would or would not be done > 2. Pre Pre alpha stage > 3. Tis the season, its starting to wind down a bit This is mostly directed at Xern, and wanders a bit off topic. I'm sort of in anti-spammer mode atm, so a few words on email addresses: Decide if you really really need email addresses. If you do: What you use the address for should be clearly stated on the site. Note that if you sell or give addresses to anybody else, it's a very bad thing and will lose you contributors, but state you do so. Communication to that address should be limited to stuff related to the site. Any communication to the address beyond what results directly from a users action on the site should require the user to explicitly request it and default to off. e.g. they need to check a box to get it (having to uncheck it is not acceptable and will probably result in you getting more cries of spam then necessary) Email addresses should *NOT* appear *ANYWHERE* without the person's explicit consent. It should default to off and has the same requirements as above. When someone signs up the system should send them a confirmation mail that they have to either reply to or click a link before any further mail is sent (and it would be sensible to not allow any additional web site access before confirmation). This should use a strong unique token, but it must *NOT* be derived from the email address. If a valid token can be created from any given email address, spammers will abuse it. If/when the site grows to a respectable size you are bound to get some complaints about spam, misguided or otherwise. Make sure you have working contact addresses to deal with complaints and you do so promptly. Hopefully it'll never happen but it pays to be prepared :) All that said, IMHO you probably should require valid email addresses, and the above will go a long way to ensuring cries of spam are few and you have validated email addresses for all users. The site seems like a good idea to me. Though, I completely agree with what lgbeard says above about its current state. These things don't happen overnight, though, and I wish you luck :) obascii: not very good, small can of spam .----. |----| |SPAM| `----'