X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: f996b,5eeaeb40d0c561bf X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-12-14 09:48:21 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de!adfpc.amp.uni-hannover.de!nobody From: Andreas Freise Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: Paschimottanasana Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 18:47:31 +0100 Organization: Universitaet Hannover Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <3DF88652.1F600DE5@hotbrev.com> <8dedta.opk.ln@adfpc.amp.uni-hannover.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.75.235.112 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de 1039888098 13664 130.75.235.112 (14 Dec 2002 17:48:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Dec 2002 17:48:18 GMT X-Face: %XhMERdBemohx4TB/zw0f`1Y%d}y10tjY4RjzCc&DWou4VZc;7iz#f3F8a-V|hA9Ief>mYBeoVep0^f#tV{;TrhZPPKPLwl^F&mypu*u0*YcWt0P}%kYb~C..+}_[2!%&THVkvA8c0:"~[\*~0O*$\1zDa5eIlG User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:21085 On 13 Dez 2002 Joaquim G�ndara wrote: [...] >> b) Photography is commonly thought of being a form of art >> (well, a few pictures) even if the photogrpaher did not build >> the camera him-/herself. > > Although I understand your point, I think your analogy is broken. > What is the converter's equivalent of the photographer's concept of > composition, for example? > > While a photographer moves around in a 3D world and tries to capture > all the sights, emotions, smells and whatnot of the scene in a 2D > medium, the pixel->ASCII converter takes a picture and converts it to > another medium. It's more akin to a photographer who only takes photos > of old paintings, or a person who specializes in fiddling with the > settings of a photocopier. I should have known that "proof by example" never works. However, my point was that is doesn't matter how much work is involved, not that photographers don't work. > Is a discussion technically over if you haven't reached any conclusions? > I say we're _still_ having that discussion. :) True. I just didn't like the troll-like way of bringing it up. :) Andreas -- ________________________________________________ http://www.ascii-art.de