X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,cd8952c95de819e1 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-08-24 08:44:50 PST Sender: Joe Fischer Message-ID: <3d67a9eb_2@news.iglou.com> From: Joe Fischer Subject: Re: FAQ? Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art References: <6cd99.123553$983.159634@rwcrnsc53> <3d6625a8_3@news.iglou.com> <4b6a982c33Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> <3d6695b4_3@news.iglou.com> <4b6ab9bfd4Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: tin/1.5.9-20010723 ("Chord of Souls") (UNIX) (SunOS/5.7 (sun4m)) NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.107.41.17 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.107.41.17 Date: 24 Aug 2002 11:44:44 -0400 X-Trace: news.iglou.com 1030203884 192.107.41.17 (24 Aug 2002 11:44:44 -0400) Lines: 51 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.107.41.17 Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!nntp.abs.net!uunet!dca.uu.net!news.iglou.com!not-for-mail Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:19132 Jeremy C B Nicoll wrote: :Joe Fischer wrote: :> Does your Pluto reader on risc support ANSI, or at least VT-100? : : No, it's a pure text email/news client. Then that's like pine and pico on unix. : But there are other programs : which will view alien non-text stuff, linke HTML, ANSI, VTxxx etc But will they change the remote workstation display to high resolution graphics and transmit pixels? :> Usenet doesn't make it easy to post anything but ascii text, do you :> know how to post ANSI? : : No. Is it any different from posting any other character set with high : bits set? ANSI doesn't necessarily have 'high bits" set, it uses VT100 format with charact decimal 27 being the "ESCAPE" or beginning character in an "ESCAPE sequence", that looks like ]]35m to change foreground color, ]]45m to change background color, ]]32;45m to change both, and ]]20;10H to position the cursor if needed. Clear Entire Screen is ]]2J. So that part would have been easy to implement in HTML, except the characters would have to be all the same size and fixed width. The IBM high characters are simply characters 128 through 255 (255 being blank). Usenet is 8 bits capable now, so no bits have to be set, the character decimal 32 through 255 is simply sent as a single byte. It would be easy to create a fixed size and width ANSI character set for windows, identical to the IBM character set. And I don't think translating the color info from ]]34;45m to "foreground color=" background color=". just a little less code to transmit, but with less color combinations. There is a newsgroup that sends ANSI, it is a tw group with "literal" in the newsgroup name. Joe Fischer -- 3