X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,faeac71562bfe753 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-01 15:38:11 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!uni-erlangen.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!user15214.vip-za.COM!not-for-mail From: b Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: Still would like a Gecko! Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 01:38:09 +0200 Organization: Cuneiform Script Writers Guild Lines: 275 Message-ID: References: <7tseauc66419ld8i3bg300bf19570u79vj@4ax.com> <3ca7a962.32560011@205.158.27.245> <3ca8756b.994087@205.158.27.245> NNTP-Posting-Host: user15214.vip-za.com (163.203.155.110) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1017704287 28115227 163.203.155.110 (16 [138478]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:16520 On 01 Apr 2002 15:17:42 GMT, mikechat.remove@bluedwarf.spam.net (MJP) wrote in message <3ca8756b.994087@205.158.27.245>: >On Mon, 01 Apr 2002 12:12:26 +0200, b wrote: >>On 01 Apr 2002 00:34:06 GMT, mikechat.remove@bluedwarf.spam.net (MJP) wrote >>in message <3ca7a962.32560011@205.158.27.245>: >>>On Mon, 01 Apr 2002 01:12:12 +0200, b wrote: >>>>On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 16:57:40 +0200, "Andrea Lachner" >>>> wrote in message >>>>: >>>>>Considering I am the reason all this started, I have ONLY one thing to >>>>>say: >>>>>b (alias Richard) >>>>>is pathetically overreacting, and seeking attention. Shame! >>>>>Has he got any siblings? Obviously none he cares about! >>>>>Because if he did, and someone made a derrogatory comment about his >>>>>siblings, he would also react like my brother did! >>>>>IDIOT, is all I have to say! >>>>>And, oh so very boring! >>>>I did not know that you were related... there must be plenty of people who >>>>share your surname... >>>>secondly, i was merely having some harmless fun that I am sure did not >>>>offend you... >>>lets see, if _they_ weren't offended, why are you being so whinie >>any complaint is a whine in your view... >only when its people like you who disturb things intentionally, complete utter hogwash... >and then complain when things don't go as you planned your spin on events has no relation to reality at all... in fact you are not fully au fait with the facts surrounding the issue at hand... >>i've had my inbox flooded, been signed up for third part subscriptions, had >>my name and email address forged (and received complaints for stuff that >>Copeman is doing), had my personal particulars posted all over Usenet and >>various web sites, received death threats etc. etc... >>and all because one particular person (Peter Copeman) could not get his way >>and have my ISP revoke my account for participating on ATJ... because he >>apparently does not want people exchanging conversation there... he insists >>that ATJ is for joke lists only... >>i told him to take a hike and he went nuts... he even started posting here, >he started posting here, he (Peter Copeman) scoured Usenet for my presence so that he could inject himself there to spread his devilry as broadly as possible... >your little playground of mischief again... complete utter hogwash... >and disrupted your >nasty mouthed good time (here being alt-ascii.art) you are not a participant >in this newsgroup, merely an annoyance more lies... >>which of course annie_ascii loved... in fact "she" only posts now to scoff >>at me because I outed "her" on here... only a very few people still believe >>she is a 15yo girl... >in your mind, those voices must be telling you interesting things.... I have answered this in a previous posting... >>and "she" takes great delight in re-posting my >>personal details here, but no one rebukes her for that... >>if people are going to hold me accountable for posting Gernot's details >>here, then I am going to hold anyone who posts my details legally >>accountable too... and don't accuse me of whining further either... >since you were the one who decided to cross-post I have do not cross-post here, I post here... this proves you are either misinformed or lying... I believe you are lying with malice of forethought in an attempt to discredit me... >here with the intent to disrupt the news group, complete utter hogwash... it is impossible to disrupt a group if you do not flood and keep your posting address fairly constant... I have changed my header at times, but I do not switch addresses constantly to spring out of kill-filters... so the question is: how do I disrupt this ng? by posting little quips that you don't find amusing? >I don't see as you have room to complain if somone else does likewise I have never done what has been done to me... Copeman's provider does not seem to take any notice of any complaints, and I am not the only person who has tendered abuse complaints about him either... since Copeman resides in the UK, it is not easy for me to go around to his address and silence him permanently, which is what I would wish would happen to him... >>Copeman is still waging war on news:alt.tasteless.jokes and while I was his >>number one target, all the rest, including Gernot Lachner here, thought it >>hilarious to incite him to new heights, and I was the one who suffered... >one can only wonder what depths you sank to that incited his actions my entire correspondence with Copeman was posted by myself onto news:alt.tasteless.jokes - the period was Jan - Feb 2002 - you can look it all up on Google.com. I have long since deleted all his emails and spam. >>now that it is their turn, they are all of a sudden producing email >>addresses where abuse reports may be sent and taking it all very >>seriously... >>one Australian is even using his postion to intimidate the staff at an >>anonymous service to reveal the identity of the person signing him up for >>third party subscriptions... >are you bragging? I am South African... and I reside in Cape Town, South Africa... >>>>thirdly, that phrase (show us yer tits) is commonly used by other people on >>>>Usenet without Gernot jumping on them and being personally abusive towards >>>>them... >>>the phrase "show us yer tits" is abusive, and a personal affront to those you use it on >>no, it's not... it's clearly a joke... and I intended it as a joke... >its not a joke, its tasteless, immature, and pointless, but then so are you complete utter hogwash... it is a joke and would clearly be recognised as such by over 95% of people reading it... but otoh there are plenty of comics through history who's satirical or subtle humour has been misreceived... (see the film Man in the Moon for an example of this)... Not everyone finds John Cleese funny... nor Robin Williams... humour is a subjective thing like ice-cream preferences... so just because you don't find me funny, does not give you the right to defame me by calling me a disruptive influence who deserves to be trashed and issued with death threats... all your posts attempt to belittle me... as does Gernot's and others... belittling posts are common on Usenet and usually I ignore them... but when they are ongoing and persistent and track me around to different newsgroups then I am prepared to do something about that harassment... >>none of my posts are intended to cause people personal hurt or otherwise >>inconvenience them... >idiot, you are posting drivel on an ascii group, you are rude, you are inconveniencing >people the world over, its your reason for existing apparently How am I inconveniencing you? You can kill filter me any time. I do not personally abuse or slander you... Plenty of people post drivel to Usenet, not that I consider what I post drivel, but it is not a requirement of Usenet that posts need to be passed by you first. Please accept that. >>>>Gernot clearly has a personal problem with me, because it is not what I say >>>>but the mere fact that it emanates from _me_ that causes his reaction... >>>not only Gernot, but the whole world, even the voices have turned against you >>fine, be silly about it... it's not really your problem anyway... >>and fyi i do not suffer auditory hallucinations... >did the voices tell you to say that? ok... time to plonk you and move on... this is all going above your head... >>>>I am not prepared to tolerate his abuse anymore... furthermore I find it >>>you seem eager to dish out what you cannot take >>that is ridiculous... i am not an abusive poster... >you are, quit the denials, no one believes them anyway ... >>>>ironic in the extreme that he whines that I breached his privacy by posting >>>no the irony is the amount of whining you are doing when its YOUR turn on the hotseat >>actually the irony is that Gernot Lachner has actively encouraged a hardcore >>Internet abuser merely because he doesn't like me... >one can only wonder what depths you sank to in order to provoke these people ... >>I ignore those I dislike... I don't play petty revenge games on the >>Internet... after all, this is a place I work too... >then get back to work and quit posting to groups that you are not a participant of >(on topic, not your regular troll crap) ... >>>>his personal details (that he accidentally posted elsewhere) when he has >>>>actively incited Peter Copeman when he decided to post by personal details >>>you feel no compunction against doing it to others, just if it happens to you >>nonsense... I have posted only Gernot's address on here to indicate to him >>that he is not anonymous... and that I am entirely serious about him showing >>me respect or just refraining from issuing further slanderous and false >>comments online about me... >again, its ok when YOU do it, in your mind, you even post justifications that >you (or those lil voices) make up as to why its ok for YOU to do whatever you want ... >>>>online... Gernot's incitement of Peter Copeman including condenation of >>>>Copemans' death threats against me, when Copeman was posting a physical >>>>address that could well have been accurate... at no time did Gernot oppose >>>>such death threats, in fact he encouraged Copeman... I hold Gernot complicit >>>>in this ongoing abuse against me and I am ready to pursue criminal and civil >>>>actions against him if he refuses to take me seriously and stop... >>>maybe, just maybe, if you stopped your crap, the crap you dish out wouldn't come back around and >>>smack you in the back of the head later >>utter rubbish... this happened as a result of Copeman's implacable desire to >>force his will on atj... >I wonder what depths you sank to in order to cause him to target you I refused to comply with his demands... which were: 1. stop participating in atj 2. remove my web site (http://www.adderleystreet.co.za) 3. slit my wrists clearly this is a man to be taken seriously... so I told him very eloquently what I thought of his demands, and then he went into warp overdrive... and Gernot and his fellow lackies thought it was hugely funny to egg him on, by saying I deserved it etc... atj is a place where some people find it funny to be nasty to others ala playground bully style... i don't find it funny, but i am prepared to deal with it on atj... however when people, like Lachner here and Copeman before him, decide that they wish to follow me around Usenet dishing out more of the same, then I am prepared to get lawyers and police involved if need be... first step however is to get their ISPs concerned to issue them with a warning... >>Gernot took a dislike to me for his own reasons... I cannot account for >>that... disliking someone is a private issue, slandering and harassing them >>because of that dislike is a completely different matter... >>Now I suggest you not involve yourself any further in something you do not >>understand fully... you are not in full possession of the facts and I don't >>think you are particularly interested in doing anything but add more fuel to >>the fire... >and I suggest you find a new hobby, as you can see trolling in several news groups >has caught up on you, utter rot... trolling is a time honoured art... and it will be here long after both of us have moved on... >and all the crap you have dished out is now comming full circle >and dumping back on you.... utter fornicating rubbish... >and now for something ON TOPIC: TROLL > ; > . |.|(|., _ > .\ \ '/|)|',-' ., > `.\ |.ooooooooo.i.-- > ''`.dYY'```''''`YYb.'' > dX` 'Xb > .-.Xb wwWWw wWWww dX.-. > ((@ 9X : O > < O : XP @)) > U' Xb `--'| |`--' dX `U > .odXb .-' `-. dXbo. > dY'`` '-._.-' ''`Yb > dX' _,ooo._ `Xb > Xb d8 _|_ 8b dX > 8b `Y8d8P' d8' > Y8o_ ,dP' > YY8ooooooooooooooMJP' > __) (__ > /,. , \ > \\| |// > (( _____ )) > | Y | > |__|__| > (| |) > || || > _ /( )\_ > _,--'' b d ``--.__ > ,-'' ,/' `\, ``-. > .-.-.-.-. /' `.\ .-.-.-.-. >(_(_(_(___)' `(___)_)_)_) is this what you look like...? -- beside.myself@last.com V ybir lbh nyy. 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