X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,1c2897ed56918deb X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-09-22 05:19:17 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!130.133.1.3!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!212.120.170.182!not-for-mail From: grue@mail.ru (Timofei Shatrov) Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: Mike Throll 5 Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 12:21:22 GMT Lines: 80 Message-ID: <3bac7286.23521222@News.CIS.DFN.DE> References: <3ba5bac8.2311763@News.CIS.DFN.DE> <9o5cf9$m7f$1@news.fas.harvard.edu> <3ba710ac.2496292@News.CIS.DFN.DE> <1000823107.6971@itz.pp.sci.fi> <9oachv$795$1@news.fas.harvard.edu> <1000936949.850@itz.pp.sci.fi> <9oh5j3$64$1@news.fas.harvard.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.120.170.182 X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1001161154 13226390 212.120.170.182 (16 [101885]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:7775 On 22 Sep 2001 04:54:59 GMT, uncle monty tried to confuse everyone with this message: > >ok Timofei, time to reveal the shape that solves the problem... we are >clearly too thick to get your hints. thanks --monty /\ / \ / \ #\ /# /\##\ /##/\ / \##\/##/ \ / \\####/ \ #\ /####\ / /\##\ /##/\##\ /#/\ / \##\/##/ \##\/#/ \ / \####/ \###/ \ \ /####\ /###\ / \ /##/\##\ /##/\#\ / \/##/ \##\/##/ \#\/ / \####/ \ \ /####\ / \ /##/\##\ / \/##/ \##\/ #/ \ \ / \ / \/ Let's imagine this grid is infinite. After some time (t) it will fill all the plane. It's area increases k times (k>1000 is constant). Let's make finite but very big grid. After some time its center area will increase k times and its border can't affect dots which are more than t meters from border. If initial area of blot=a, then a'/a ~ k*((r-t)^2)/(r^2)) if k=1000*(x^2),x>1 then (r-t)/r must be greater than 1/x, r>xt/(x-1). So, we can choose any radius more than xt/(x-1) _.,----.._ ,-' '-. /' ## -. ' ########### \ / ################ \ / ################## \ .' ################## \ | #########<------------>| | ##############r### | | ################## / '. ############### | `. ########### / \ ^ _' `._ |t ,- `-.._v__.,-' -- Grue Mike Throll comic strip at: http://grue.freeservers.com Bugsoft Perm at: http://bugsoft.freeservers.com