X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,3781c24c7875bbc3 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-10-30 11:20:05 PST From: "Mel" Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art References: <3bdf2e57_2@batman.vip-za.com> <6un129ccis.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch> Subject: Re: GEEK GRRL! Episode 4 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 21:15:58 +0200 Lines: 114 Organization: www.AdderleyStreet.co.za MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: user14966.vip-za.com Message-ID: <3bdf8922_2@batman.vip-za.com> X-Trace: 30 Oct 2001 21:16:18 -0800, user14966.vip-za.com X-Report: Report abuse to newsabuse@vip-za.com Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!netnews.com!newsfeed.nyc.globix.net!infeed.is.co.za!feeder.is.co.za!newsfeed.vip-za.com!batman.vip-za.com!user14966.vip-za.com Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:9296 "Neil Franklin" wrote in message news:6un129ccis.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch... > "Mel" writes: > > wrote in message > > news:ttsvapcu7pub60@corp.supernews.com... > > > > > Tell you what...I'll give you 500 million > > > up front, and 10 per cent of the gross sales. > > > ,,////, / > > > ,//////\\ / Can't help you, d00d. WinDoze sux. It > > > // [.]-[.] sucked in 1985, 1995, and it'll ALWAYS > > > | _\) suck. Not even my assembler can save > > > > Take the money... ALWAYS take the money... this is the wisdom that Netscape > > didn't heed when Microsoft came calling... > It is the "wisdom" Netscape was intelligent enough to avoid. well they passed up a lot of money... and then Netscape the company folded and faded out anyway... > > If Netscape had "sold out", then Netscape would be what I use to browse the > > Internet today instead of Internet Explorer... > Nope. You would have been forced to IE even faster. The "deal" that MS > tried to flog on NS was that NS should get out of Windows and MS would > leave them the rest of all OSes. Official statement of NS managment in > front of court. > Of course MS would have then taken the Windows majority and made their > web incompatible with NSes and then killed them on all other platforms. actually Microsoft supports open standards better than many others... such as Netscape and Sun... :-) The browser does not define HTML standards... in fact Netscape's non-standard extensions were/are divisive when it comes to designing web sites... > Thanks to NS not entering the deal, they still have an small Windows > presence with those users who do not want IE, and have only lost part > of the Mac market for it. And that despite bungling up the entire NS4.5 > series and not putting out NS5 to bridge the time while making NS6. Not > to mention bringing NS6 too early. well the browser tug-of-war has been won by Microsoft... but you are right... sufficient Netscape browsers are used to cause web site designers compatibility headaches... I'm all for competition with the proviso that standards are adhered to... Netscape still does not support CSS like IE does... > > sometimes "principles" aren't worth a damn to anyone... > And sometimes principles, and the self respect coming from holding > them, are worth more than money. I take the money every time... principles don't buy you bread... money does... > > Do you even remember the boy genius that is associated with Netscape...? > Marc Andreesen. you do... so do I... but did Annie know before you posted? Do most 14 year olds know? > > Actually Plan B of Microsoft is to either develop the technology itself or > > to buy it from your competitor... > Usually buy. IE1 or IE2 was bought in from Spry, was called Spyglass there. Yup. Nothing wrong with that... > > and then integrate it into the operating > > system... > And more important: license Windows with the condition that no rival > product may be bundled together with it, so that users always first > try the MS version and only switch if they think they will find better > Why do you think no PC manufacturer offers preinstalled dual-boot > Windows + Linux? Its forbidden in the Windows OEM license. Yeah... I agree here... Microsoft should not have the power to restrict what software gets loaded... > > All those little companies making cool utilities for Microsoft operating > > systems over the years have seen subsequent releases of DOS or Windows > > incorporate versions of their utilities thus destroying their markets... > AKA DOS 5.0 and DOS 6.x Yup. > > Do you remember who made the first Expanded Memory Manager for DOS...? How > > about Defrag? > > Quarterdeck - QEMM > Qemm was the EMM, And Norton Speedisk did what defrag does. Yup. > > otherwise, if money is not your concern, you can instead make free open > > source software for Linux.. > Which is a lot more sensible. I like Linux... I think it is going to see some explosive growth over the 5 years... still trying to learn it myself... and it's not plain sailing... :-( -- Smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself You will pay for your sins. If you have already paid, please disregard this message.