X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,12b49a8f35c1747 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-10-21 02:41:04 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsmm00.sul.t-online.com!t-online.de!news.t-online.com!not-for-mail From: "Peter \"lastfuture\" Marquardt" Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: The UsenetWars have begun! Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 11:39:40 +0200 Organization: T-Online Lines: 81 Message-ID: <3ZLSOx1lUSYXrmz5l1PsFjx1Oe1S@4ax.com> References: <9qnk10$p0o$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk> <3QXQO02NFJCjl7J2YgUlI2PnNtpz@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.t-online.com 1003657084 04 22813 wxUTTdkVSLAZgP 011021 09:38:04 X-Complaints-To: abuse@t-online.com X-Sender: 520084321266-0001@t-dialin.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.6/32.525 Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:8769 sorry if i disillusionate all you people who act like "l8tz" was a crime... in case you didn't read my last post i'll repost parts and comment on them. >quite some of those "things like l8tz" have developed in usenet >newsgroups where you just are ....the jargon lexicon (jargon files) >says the following for "talk mode": > >talk mode n. A feature supported by UNIX, ITS, and some other OSes >that allows two or more logged-in users to set up a real-time on-line >conversation. It combines the immediacy of talking with all the >precision (and verbosity) that written language entails. It is >difficult to communicate inflection, though conventions have arisen >for some of these (see the section on writing style in the Prependices >for details). >Talk mode has a special set of jargon words, used to save typing, >which are not used orally. Some of these are identical to (and >probably derived from) Morse-code jargon used by ham-radio amateurs >since the 1920s. have you read it? good. now comes the interesting part: >Most of these are not used at universities or in the UNIX world, >though ROTF and TTFN have gained some currency there and IMHO is >common; conversely, most of the people who know these are unfamiliar >with FOO?, BCNU, HELLOP, NIL, and T. >The MUD community uses a mixture of Usenet/Internet emoticons, a few >of the more natural of the old-style talk-mode abbrevs, and some of AHA! so those abbreviations are referred to as Usenet/Internet emoticons! (in case you don't know.. Usenet is the very thing you have just accessed to read all those newsgroup messages) So why should the abbreviations wich developed in Usenet be banned from it now? That's pathetic ... a denial of the fact that those are kinda tradition here since back in the old days where you had to be smart to be able and use the internet... back when internet was still expensive and you had to know how to hook up a computer to the telephone... back when people ran BBS services wich you had to dial into directly over the phoneline, not via an Internet Service Provider... back when the internet consisted of nothing than plain text. bach in the time when the first ascii-art was made.... so why do you judge over something like "l8tz" now? ...you're really acting as if it was a crime and you had the right to stone or burn him for it.. this is no war after all... just an accent of some internet users wich developed over decades! so imho you should rtfm (jargon files)! wtf do you think you are anyway!? >or repeatedly makes the same spelling error and backs up to fix it. It >is usually best just to leave typographical errors behind and plunge >forward, unless severe confusion may result; in that case it is often screw ya guys i'm goin' home! cul8r! Obascii: ,------------. | ,--------. | | |>_ | | | | | | | `--------' | ,------. ,.__,. `------------' ( |""| )@@@@. / (, ) \ | ==== |---######## "@@@@ "" |. `--------------' """""""" `------' `-._____ how you hook up a computer in the old days with an acoustic coupler and your ordinary phone.