X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit
X-Google-Thread: f996b,eb87e25afefa9969
X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public
X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-11-26 20:01:02 PST
Path: 
 archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!193.174.75.178!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!news.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!not-for-mail
From: Markus Gebhard <ukgh@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art
Subject: Re: jmove JavE
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 05:02:46 +0100
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Lines: 39
Message-ID: <3C031066.BD939070@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
References: <3bfac461.17885109@news.concentric.net>
 <3BFADA65.66A37D3F@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
 <3baa0398.0111202237.7660675e@posting.google.com>
 <3bfb538a.54540074@news.concentric.net>
 <3BFB7C5D.28B7BCA2@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
 <3bfb9fc1$0$89826$edfadb0f@dspool01.news.tele.dk>
 <3BFC0EA3.2A7D1039@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
 <3bffafce$0$248$edfadb0f@dspool01.news.tele.dk>
 <3C0007A2.C139E33B@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
 <3c0013b4$0$74724$edfadb0f@dspool01.news.tele.dk>
 <3C001C4E.CDBF128C@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
 <3c0033bc$0$74803$edfadb0f@dspool01.news.tele.dk>
 <4adf244603Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk>
 <3c016a1d$0$25378$edfadb0f@dspool01.news.tele.dk>
 <3C017236.C2C8ED0C@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> <4adf8ab324Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk>
 <3C028FBC.3C18963B@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> <4adfacab0dJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk>
NNTP-Posting-Host: wn4-jarjar.wn4.uni-karlsruhe.de
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Trace: news.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de 1006833661 28452 172.20.12.141
X-Complaints-To: usenet@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:11770

Jeremy C B Nicoll wrote:
> 
> OK, I just looked at the JMOV file in that - I take it that this is the
> actual movie definition while the values in successive elements of the
> "Frames" array in the javascript player are (somehow) derived from the
> very much bigger movie definition.

That's right. The only difference is that some meta information is
stripped and some frames are comressed to a D-frame (when only one or a
few characters in one line are changed from one frame to another) or
even to an empty frame "" (no change).

> Is this what makes the contents of the "Frames" array so much smaller
> than the 242K hovercraft JMOV file?

Yes. The jmov file can be zip compressed so I do not worry about the
size there - on the other hand in a jmov file I have to access a single
frame fast w/o uncompressing the previous to get the missing information
in D-frames.

> I think I've misunderstood - I'd been hoping to find, in essence, some
> more examples of definitions of "Frames" and "Delay" arrays so that I'd
> be able to watch something other than the hovercraft in my browser.

I have made a package of jmov files and the corresponding JavaScript
animations:
  http://www.jave.de/demo/jmovs.zip
BTW: A timing information of 0 means that the previous timing
information will be used.

> Thanks for taking the time to reply to my questions.

That's alright - Thanks for looking at my weird jmov files/spec/etc. :-) 

Markus
--
 \-/         http://www.jave.de    O_< Get JavE now!    \-/
J|a|v|E                           /|                   J|a|v|E
 /-\      Ascii-Art for eyeryone  / \   - for free!     /-\